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Gutter Boy said:
Is 40% most? And that includes the Rotterdam effect (good for the rest of the world going first through the port of Rotterdam). 60% and growing of our trade is with the rest of the world.
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Splitting hairs here but I believe that it is 45% of our exports that are to the EU. If trade is harder with the EU after Brexiteers it will have a significant impact on the economy. Also, doesn't the fact that 55% of our exports going outside the EU rather contradict your point about EU membership struggling our non-European international trade?
 
milo said:
Splitting hairs here but I believe that it is 45% of our exports that are to the EU. If trade is harder with the EU after Brexiteers it will have a significant impact on the economy. Also, doesn't the fact that 55% of our exports going outside the EU rather contradict your point about EU membership struggling our non-European international trade?
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But we can immediately get rid of the EU external customs tariff and suddenly become much more competitive/attractive to the rest of the world. The EU is only 6.9% of the world (before you take the UK out). There's plenty of opportunity to make good any drop in exports and more, once we can trade without the EU's tariffs.

And it is harming our non-European trade if only 55% of our exports are going to 93.1% of the world
 
Gutter Boy said:
But we can immediately get rid of the EU external customs tariff and suddenly become much more competitive/attractive to the rest of the world. The EU is only 6.9% of the world (before you take the UK out). There's plenty of opportunity to make good any drop in exports and more, once we can trade without the EU's tariffs.

And it is harming our non-European trade if only 55% of our exports are going to 93.1% of the world
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It is possible that we could remove tariffs on imports but that would depend on the agreement that we reach with the EU on our future relationship. If we continue to pay into the EU budget to retain access to its markets, it is possible that we would also retain some form of customs union.

The EU external customs tariff applies to imports into the EU and not exports. So it hard to see where this immediate benefit to British business is.

How do you know that it is the EU that is harming our non-European international trade and not geography, the attractiveness of our products to other markets, compatibility with local regulations..?
 
SpurMeUp said:
Does anyone actually want Brexit anymore?

We need a vote on here. And I can't see how the country could go forward without a vote too, once we know what Brexit actually means.
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Yes i do and everyone i know who voted to leave still do as well. As for another vote i will say what i said when it was first asked for by the sore losers ( and probably bring the wrath of Milo down on me) that is just wrong.

Gutter Boy said:
About 52% of people I expect.

The leave campaign threw everything they had at it and still couldn't batter down people's courage to say 'no more'. Like 1588, 1803 and 1940, Britain stood alone but still drew it's line in the sand.

Brexit means anything but the European Commission deciding everything. The possibilities are endless.
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Great post mate, some still think we were hoodwinked into voting out when in all truth the remain side failed to have enough scare storys to make us vote remain.
 
I voted to remain and did so quite unenthusiastically. But I thought it was the best decision overall.

If we had another vote, I'd vote remain again, but more convinced it was the right decision. This is because, imo, the government don't have the first clue what is in the long-term interests of the country and as such they have no real plan with how best to handle leaving the EU, or an idea of how to make being outside of the EU better than being inside of it.
 
the dza said:
I voted to remain and did so quite unenthusiastically. But I thought it was the best decision overall.

If we had another vote, I'd vote remain again, but more convinced it was the right decision. This is because, imo, the government don't have the first clue what is in the long-term interests of the country and as such they have no real plan with how best to handle leaving the EU, or an idea of how to make being outside of the EU better than being inside of it.
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If the Government of the day are crap, we can always vote in a new one and hope they are better at running the country etc
 
I can't think of one thing that is going to be a 'real world' improvement after brexit, not one.

I'm am glad Osborne and cameron have gone!:)
 
glorygloryeze said:
If the Government of the day are crap, we can always vote in a new one and hope they are better at running the country etc
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We could do that anyway.

The only "real world" thing I can think of that the EU prevented our nation from doing was being in total control of immigration, due to the free movement of people from the EU. I couldn't care less about voting on curved bananas or whatever boiled the p1ss of the average retired general.

I get immigration as an issue, I really do. But I'm personally not arsed about it. However, I am bothered about economic upheaval and the potential of being worse off.
 
the dza said:
We could do that anyway.

The only "real world" thing I can think of that the EU prevented our nation from doing was being in total control of immigration, due to the free movement of people from the EU. I couldn't care less about voting on curved bananas or whatever boiled the p1ss of the average retired general.

I get immigration as an issue, I really do. But I'm personally not arsed about it. However, I am bothered about economic upheaval and the potential of being worse off.
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I'm not sure immigration will change significantly and if it does it will be a long way off, and hardly noticeable.
 
I see that Stephen Woolfe has quite UKIP. I wonder if Aaron Banks and his money will follow.
 
the dza said:
Maybe Banks can just do it himself, like a low-rent Trump!
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He's been talking about forming a new party aimed at working class voters in the north. He'd probably want Woolfe involved in that, the other option is that they join the Tories.
 
the dza said:
We could do that anyway.

The only "real world" thing I can think of that the EU prevented our nation from doing was being in total control of immigration, due to the free movement of people from the EU. I couldn't care less about voting on curved bananas or whatever boiled the p1ss of the average retired general.

I get immigration as an issue, I really do. But I'm personally not arsed about it. However, I am bothered about economic upheaval and the potential of being worse off.
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What about losing one's right to not incriminate oneself, something that just about every democracy in the world considers sacrosanct and a means to protect the public against torture by the state?
 
scaramanga said:
What about losing one's right to not incriminate oneself, something that just about every democracy in the world considers sacrosanct and a means to protect the public against torture by the state?
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You'll have to make that a bit simpler for me to understand mate. So if I get nicked, I can't just say "no comment" to everything? I'm not following.
 
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