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parklane1 said:
If he did 4, 9 and 12 out of that lot would be a great start.
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There are about 8 people on 0 hour contracts in this factory now that would have no work at all if they were banned.

Mainly I hear a lot of people (guilty middle classes) droning on about how terrible 0 hour contracts are without actually having any idea about the motivation behind them. Then there are a lot of people who are on 0 hour contracts complaining that they want full time work. When you ask them whether they'd want 0 hours or no job, they'd all (without exception in my experience) choose 0 hours.
 
parklane1 said:
If he did 4, 9 and 12 out of that lot would be a great start.
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I think spending money on the NHS and Schools are admirable ideas, it is just where the money comes from.

The only one that angers me is the inheritance one, I worked to own my own home and I want to pass it on to my son when I die, I have been taxed enough in my life as it is.
 
scaramanga said:
There are about 8 people on 0 hour contracts in this factory now that would have no work at all if they were banned.

Mainly I hear a lot of people (guilty middle classes) droning on about how terrible 0 hour contracts are without actually having any idea about the motivation behind them. Then there are a lot of people who are on 0 hour contracts complaining that they want full time work. When you ask them whether they'd want 0 hours or no job, they'd all (without exception in my experience) choose 0 hours.
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Have you got a contract?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I think spending money on the NHS and Schools are admirable ideas, it is just where the money comes from..
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Our NHS (or the concept) is a wonderful thing and something of which we should be rightly proud.
But I cannot see how it can be sustainable in its current format for the long term.
There should be more encouragement or incentives for people to look at private health insurance or for companies to proviide private health care schemes as a benefit.
I would still want the NHS to remain a free-at-the-point-of-delivery and of a high standard for those who really need it. I would not want to create more of a two tier system than we already have, and certainly nothing like the US where no health insurance is tantamount to no treatment.
I appreciate this is all very much pie in the sky and there are no doubt loads of reasons why this would be costly and controversial. But at some point the government of the day, or a cross-party committee/alliance, or someone, needs to be brave and come up with an alternative to just throwing more money at it to relieve some of pressure. The NHS cannot carry on creaking away as it is now as it will ultimately fail those who need it most.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I think spending money on the NHS and Schools are admirable ideas, it is just where the money comes from.

The only one that angers me is the inheritance one, I worked to own my own home and I want to pass it on to my son when I die, I have been taxed enough in my life as it is.
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Starbucks, Goggle, off shore tax havens?
 
scaramanga said:
There are about 8 people on 0 hour contracts in this factory now that would have no work at all if they were banned.

Mainly I hear a lot of people (guilty middle classes) droning on about how terrible 0 hour contracts are without actually having any idea about the motivation behind them. Then there are a lot of people who are on 0 hour contracts complaining that they want full time work. When you ask them whether they'd want 0 hours or no job, they'd all (without exception in my experience) choose 0 hours.
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Bit like asking starving men do they want to starve or eat pig swill, they'd all choose pig swill!
 
the flexibility of zero hours contracts should be toggled to the employees side. That is they can take multiple contemporary contracts and limit the hours served under any one of them, and the timing of that work.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Our NHS (or the concept) is a wonderful thing and something of which we should be rightly proud.
But I cannot see how it can be sustainable in its current format for the long term.
There should be more encouragement or incentives for people to look at private health insurance or for companies to proviide private health care schemes as a benefit.
I would still want the NHS to remain a free-at-the-point-of-delivery and of a high standard for those who really need it. I would not want to create more of a two tier system than we already have, and certainly nothing like the US where no health insurance is tantamount to no treatment.
I appreciate this is all very much pie in the sky and there are no doubt loads of reasons why this would be costly and controversial. But at some point the government of the day, or a cross-party committee/alliance, or someone, needs to be brave and come up with an alternative to just throwing more money at it to relieve some of pressure. The NHS cannot carry on creaking away as it is now as it will ultimately fail those who need it most.
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The German model of privately provided, publicly funded healthcare would be an improvement IMO
 
Anyone else think that now would be an insensitive but opportune time for Theresa May to tell Europe the free movement of goods and services is a prerequisite for the support of our security services in anti-terrorism?

It's something that we do really quite well and also something of which Europe is in dire need.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I would still want the NHS to remain a free-at-the-point-of-delivery and of a high standard for those who really need it. I would not want to create more of a two tier system than we already have.
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We need to breathalyse people in A&E. If they are over the drive limit, they have to wait and bleed.
Ditto fat people... they have to lose weight before being helped for being fat.
Ditto smokers, give up before being helped with smoking related issues.
Etc.
I'm perfect me, of course.
 
Bullet said:
We need to breathalyse people in A&E. If they are over the drive limit, they have to wait and bleed.
Ditto fat people... they have to lose weight before being helped for being fat.
Ditto smokers, give up before being helped with smoking related issues.
Etc.
I'm perfect me, of course.
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It's a good few years now since I've smoked. (I too am perfect, of course). Someone told me the other day that a packet of cigarettes now costs £11. What? That is ridiculous but should guarantee 5 star health care for any smoker needing treatment given the amount of tax being paid. Outrageous.
(I know it doesn't work like that but £11! Bloody hell No wonder so many people are on those false cigarerte thingys)
 
scaramanga said:
Anyone else think that now would be an insensitive but opportune time for Theresa May to tell Europe the free movement of goods and services is a prerequisite for the support of our security services in anti-terrorism?

It's something that we do really quite well and also something of which Europe is in dire need.
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I know that you are not being serious with that suggestion but I'll play ball, that approach would backfire massively, especially considering that our security services effectiveness is dependent on international cooperation. We need majority support from the other European states for our exit agreement and unanimous agreement for any new trade deal, and if we cannot conclude our exit terms within the two years under A50, we need unanimous agreement for an extension. Under the circumstances, kicking off negotiations with blackmail probably wouldn't be the smartest thing to do.
 
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