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So we have UKIP/BNP/EDL types at one end of the spectrum getting bolder under the belief that the country agrees with them, and an IRA sympathiser lining up to take over what appears to be an increasingly anti-semitic Labour party at the other end.

Might be some fireworks on the way......
 
that guy from the blog has some good points but he went a bit conspiracy theory. I do not think the EU is fascist, anti democracy yes.

As for the president of the EU parliament saying we broke the rules because the public should not be able to decide things jeeez.

News also coming out that they are putting forward plans for an EU army and closer integration. I heard a lot from remainers that we need to be in the EU to bring about change, does anyone really think they are capable of change. They have never listened to us and we have never had any influence.

One of the great things about the leave campaign has been how people on the left and right have United to help us leave.

In future no matter whether it Labour or Tory, if the people that govern us do not do as we wish we can get rid of them. After the second world was Churchill who was seen as a saviour lost the election because the public wanted welfare and social reform. The future is bright because the electorate will shape the government and I think they will do a good job even if i don't always agree with them.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I heard a lot from remainers that we need to be in the EU to bring about change, does anyone really think they are capable of change. They have never listened to us and we have never had any influence.
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The "Better to influence from within" argument has never held any weight with me on the EU. We've never had anything much in the way of influence and the only way to get it would have been unacceptable sacrifices.
 
scaramanga said:
So we have UKIP/BNP/EDL types at one end of the spectrum getting bolder under the belief that the country agrees with them, and an IRA sympathiser lining up to take over what appears to be an increasingly anti-semitic Labour party at the other end.

Might be some fireworks on the way......
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My better half is Irish, her family still live over there. Love all of them not a bad one amongst them. But I never understood why they did not want British rule but we're happy to be in the EU. Worth noting since living in England she has become anti EU as well.

Of course the Irish are not that anti England as they would like you to believe, when they got independence they demanded to be treated the same as British people. Hence the passport signs at custom control at the airport.
 
Those of you who think the EU is a democratic institution need a reality check. Go back to my previous post and read what Martin Schulz - the President of the EU Parliament said about the referendum. You only have to see who are backing the EU, rich bankers like Peter Sutherland, George Soros, the very people who are the antithesis of anything democratic! The mainstream media are doing their best to shame the leave voters for voting out of a corrupt organisation because they are trying to control the narrative for the establishment. Apparently we need the EU! According to them the sky is falling and our economy is doomed without them! It is ironic the so-called conspiracy theories have more basis in fact than what the mainstream media trots out daily on the news! It appears once you're in the EU, you're in the EU and there is no leaving it!
 
The Portugeezer said:
Those of you who think the EU is a democratic institution need a reality check. Go back to my previous post and read what Martin Schulz - the President of the EU Parliament said about the referendum. You only have to see who are backing the EU, rich bankers like Peter Sutherland, George Soros, the very people who are the antithesis of anything democratic! The mainstream media are doing their best to shame the leave voters for voting out of a corrupt organisation because they are trying to control the narrative for the establishment. Apparently we need the EU! According to them the sky is falling and our economy is doomed without them! It is ironic the so-called conspiracy theories have more basis in fact than what the mainstream media trots out daily on the news! It appears once you're in the EU, you're in the EU and there is no leaving it!
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Funny, I thought we had just left.
Yes there is an undoubtedly undemocractic element in the EU governance, but the claims made in that article have as much credibility as the the ones of out voters all being uneducated, racist, pensioner yokels.

This kind of rubbish does no one any good.
 
glasgowspur said:
Funny, I thought we had just left.
Yes there is an undoubtedly undemocractic element in the EU governance, but the claims made in that article have as much credibility as the the ones of out voters all being uneducated, racist, pensioner yokels.

This kind of rubbish does no one any good.
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That's still a long way down the road.
 
glasgowspur said:
Funny, I thought we had just left.
Yes there is an undoubtedly undemocractic element in the EU governance, but the claims made in that article have as much credibility as the the ones of out voters all being uneducated, racist, pensioner yokels.

This kind of rubbish does no one any good.
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Technically we haven't left. The referendum was just an advisory. The MPs could vote against the decision in Parliament. Westminster could even negotiate a "deal" with the EU council and hold a second referendum. The claims are not really rubbish if you had done any research on the EU and its long-term goals. It's fundamentally undemocratic.
 
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glasgowspur said:
Funny, I thought we had just left.
Yes there is an undoubtedly undemocractic element in the EU governance, but the claims made in that article have as much credibility as the the ones of out voters all being uneducated, racist, pensioner yokels.

This kind of rubbish does no one any good.
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While I agree with the gist of what your saying. I think when you get a direct quote the is absolutely no room for doubt, the president of the EU parliament thinks the public should not be allowed to vote.

I have never once wavered in my decision to vote out and that and the new EU army means I never will.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
While I agree with the gist of what your saying. I think when you get a direct quote the is absolutely no room for doubt, the president of the EU parliament thinks the public should not be allowed to vote.

I have never once wavered in my decision to vote out and that and the new EU army means I never will.
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Now now, that's entirely inaccurate.

The public is allowed to vote, it's just not allowed to disagree with the EU Apparatchiks
 
Regardless of what happens from here in it's been proven that you can leave if you want.
I must have dreamt all those euro elections I've voted in then?
If Junkers and his ilk keep up the attitude they are displaying at the moment they will learn soon enough that they are accountable to the proles.
The only question is do they not realise or don't care that among the average person in the street the EU is becoming more unpopular.
And it's their attitude that is the driving force behind it.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Isn't even posting that considered a little racist these days? I mean when an extremist from another walk of life does it we would all knock the person posting it as racist because not everyone who was similar in background to the extremist was extremist.
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If you like.

But no-one's tarring everyone with the same brush.

It's an example of the emboldened racism that *some* feel is acceptable now we've voted out.

It's relevant because, judging by this idiot's words, this incident saw the light of day directly because of the Leave vote.
 
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