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Pedro Porro

He's OK but I think we could upgrade him, his crossing and general attacking play has got worse and he's never been that good at actual defending. One of the people I think we need to be ruthless with and sell - I think Spence is good enough to start and we'll obviously need another back up. Ideally someone who is a bit more experienced. I wonder if Walker might fancy coming back.
 
He's OK but I think we could upgrade him, his crossing and general attacking play has got worse and he's never been that good at actual defending. One of the people I think we need to be ruthless with and sell - I think Spence is good enough to start and we'll obviously need another back up. Ideally someone who is a bit more experienced. I wonder if Walker might fancy coming back.

Spence is not a better player than Porro, not even close

Not having a go at you, but really don't understand not rating the guy, he's not a defensive FB but he's levels above any of our other FBs and if we wanted to sell him, he'd be one of the few players that would go to a better club.
 
Had a very good game, showed again under RDZ the player he is.
i don't think he had a good game. especially under rdz - his crosses are floaters that are easily read by defenders and he isn't as attack minded like djed is going forward, especially in 1 v 1s.

looks very ordinary under rdz - cross when you can (non threatening usually), doesn't take on players, doesn't seize the initiative to attack space. was better under ange but we also finished 17th and looked poor in set pieces

tel has a much better delivery - and he can do that with both feet.
 
Spence is not a better player than Porro, not even close

Not having a go at you, but really don't understand not rating the guy, he's not a defensive FB but he's levels above any of our other FBs and if we wanted to sell him, he'd be one of the few players that would go to a better club.

Is he more like Trent who's good going forwards but can't defend? That's how I see him and I think first and foremost fbs do need to defend and lets not forget he's been first choice RB in a team that finished 17th 2 seasons in a row. We cant keep saying these players are good enough because they're not and if we can get a decent fee then we should take it.

Spence is a different kind of full back but I'd be comfortable with him being first choice, he's good enough and we don't have Europe either. I'd take someone like Walker as a back up - would be a great player for Spence to learn from.
 
Is he more like Trent who's good going forwards but can't defend? That's how I see him and I think first and foremost fbs do need to defend and lets not forget he's been first choice RB in a team that finished 17th 2 seasons in a row. We cant keep saying these players are good enough because they're not and if we can get a decent fee then we should take it.

Spence is a different kind of full back but I'd be comfortable with him being first choice, he's good enough and we don't have Europe either. I'd take someone like Walker as a back up - would be a great player for Spence to learn from.

Walker still makes big mistakes but at City was rarely under pressure.
 
Is he more like Trent who's good going forwards but can't defend? That's how I see him and I think first and foremost fbs do need to defend and lets not forget he's been first choice RB in a team that finished 17th 2 seasons in a row. We cant keep saying these players are good enough because they're not and if we can get a decent fee then we should take it.

Spence is a different kind of full back but I'd be comfortable with him being first choice, he's good enough and we don't have Europe either. I'd take someone like Walker as a back up - would be a great player for Spence to learn from.

His numbers are very similar to TAA (or were prior to this season) in a significantly worse team. He was bought as a WB for Conte and that's where he really shines (and that part you judge with how he plays when Deki/Kudus/etc. play in front of him, the only part of the team Frank ever got anything out of was Porro/Kudus)

My perspective (to try to avoid my own biases) in judging our players is which one would be sold to a bigger club and who the managers pick
- VDV, Romero and Porro are the only 3 senior players in the team who could be sold to a bigger team
- No manager is playing Spence over Porro

Add in his fitness, attitude and general lack of drama, I think anyone who thinks RDZ will sell/upgrade Porro anytime soon will be very disappointed.

Pretty much all players (except Kane) can be upgraded, it's all about priorities, I honestly see no change in FBs (going out) this summer.
 
He has been better of late but he is still a defensive liability. I know people like his shirt pointing and performative noncense, but he is our best attacking FB but worse defensively
 
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