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'Why Spurs' midfield should concern Jose Mourinho' - Jermaine Jenas analysis

By Jermaine Jenas

I see huge limitations when I look at Tottenham's midfield at the moment.

And, while I have been massively impressed by the impact Jose Mourinho has made in his first few weeks as Spurs boss, it is an area of the team he will have to address in order to continue their upturn in form.

While Tottenham still ended up nicking all three points against Wolves on Sunday, they went long periods without having proper possession, or the ability to control the game that comes with it.

Part of the problem was pairing Eric Dier and Mohamed Sissoko together because they are just not good enough on the ball.

They do not have enough guile or finesse and if you press them, like Wolves did, they will probably give the ball away more often than not.

When that happens, you are unable to dictate the tempo of the game and you are going to concede goals.

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Lack of control can prove costly
They got away with it against Wolves, but that lack of control was what cost Spurs when they lost to Manchester United at the start of this month.

Mourinho had Sissoko, Davinson Sanchez and Serge Aurier operating on the right, which bought strength and power to the team, plus athleticism - which is another attribute he likes.

But there was very little guile there and if you pressed that side of the pitch, like United did to score their opening goal, Spurs could not get out.

The Tottenham midfield has the same problem when Dier and Sissoko are together in a 4-2-3-1 shape. They played too many backward passes against Wolves.

What happens is the team tries to bypass them and attempts to get the ball to their front four as quickly as possible.

That is understandable really, because of how good those forwards are, and sometimes that direct approach will work.

But in certain games - like Wolves, United and Bayern in the past couple of weeks - you are going to be vulnerable whenever you lose the ball.

There is only so much pressure your defence can take when you are not keeping possession, and the ball is always coming straight back at them.

What Spurs need is balance
I don't think Mourinho knows his first-choice midfield pairing yet, because he has tried several different combinations already.

Dier and Sissoko have started the last three matches, but Mourinho might be thinking that he cannot rely on Harry Winks at the moment because he has been out injured.

I do think Winks fits the profile of a holding midfielder in a Mourinho team, though.

He is good on the ball, will sit in and not venture forward too often, and can get out of tight spaces. If he maintains his fitness, there will be a place for him.

With Tanguy Ndombele, I am not so sure. For me, he is probably Tottenham's best midfielder but Mourinho has not used him much when he has been fit, so I don't really know what he makes of him yet.

One player he definitely likes is Dier, who has had more minutes under him than any other midfielder.

I don't think Dier is fully fit either, because he has only started playing regularly again after spending most of the past 12 months managing injury and illness.

It could be Mourinho feels that, once Dier is 400% again, he can trust him every week to do the job he is asking him to do.

That is fine, but what Spurs need in that area is balance - and they do not get it from playing Sissoko alongside him.

Yes, Sissoko is a different kind of player because he can burst forward while he has the ball at his feet, but if you press Dier then he is either going to pass the ball backwards or kick it out of play - he is not going to go past anyone.

That might be down to a lack of fitness or confidence so I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but if Tottenham want to finish in the top four they cannot afford to be patient and wait for him to get back to form.

Until that situation is sorted, and a proper pairing emerges, then it is an area for concern - and definitely somewhere Spurs can improve.

Mourinho has restored belief

The midfield is really the only negative from Mourinho's first month as manager.

Apart from that, we have seen a huge improvement in results plus team and individual performances - such as with Dele Alli, for example.

Mourinho has already found a way of maximising Tottenham's threat from an attacking point of view, and the players have adapted to that straight away.

There has been something positive about most of their performances under him, and results have generally been good too.

One of the big things he has already identified is the vulnerability of the team, and I think he is working hard to put that right.

I don't mean any tactical weakness, more their state of mind.

Yes, part of his time has to go on coaching and setting up the team the way he wants it, but he has also been trying to restore confidence, arrogance and belief to this Spurs side.

As a team, they had completely lost that, especially at home, because they had suffered a few dodgy results there.

The final piece in the puzzle?

Overall, I think Mourinho's arrival has been really positive, and credit needs to go to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy for acting when he did.

I cannot think of anyone else connected to the club who would have made the decision then to look Mauricio Pochettino in the eye, and say 'this is the end', but Levy did.

Now the dust has settled, you can see he was right.

Levy also had a clear vision as to what he wanted the next step to be, which is not only to be competing for trophies, but winning them.

That is why he went for Mourinho - he sees him as the final piece in the puzzle.

Timing-wise, it was a great move. Other Premier League clubs sat and waited before sacking their manager, and have since delayed appointing a replacement.

Levy went ahead, because he knew exactly who he wanted.

The players deserve praise for responding in the manner they have done, but Mourinho has clearly made a difference - look at where Spurs were when he took over, and where they are now.

His objective now will still be to win a trophy this season, as well as getting in the top four, and I genuinely believe he will look at his squad and think he can do it with them.




He's not wrong, midfield is the biggest weakness for us by a distance.

IMO Dier is picking up, slowly, and actually did (broadly) ok yesterday.

Sissoko was Sissoko, not especially bad but I wouldnt say good either.

More pertinent is the fact these two just do not work together.

Watching the game I kept thinking what a difference a fit and up to speed NDombele could make.

So maybe things arent all bad...
I think Jenas is pretty much right. I think Mourinho sees things the same way, but he's been short on options. He's said himself this isn't his preferred midfield pairing, perhaps he's changed his mind, but I don't think so.

Depends on fitness and form from Winks and Ndombele in the coming weeks. Might be that we'll rely on Dier and Sissoko, if so that limits our options for playing style against good teams like Wolves in particular.
 
- The guy has 8 goals in his pro career, 3 for Wolves, for all his "beat Verts at will" his only goal came when he chose not to try to go through Verts and shoot from range. Data suggests he is exactly what I said, a pain in the ass to play against but hardly an effective game winner.
- That said (when I looked up his numbers), I didn't realize he's 23 (thought he was around for a lot longer), so there is still time for him to become more effective (and he is better with Wolves, seems to be in the form of his life).
- Re the professional fouling, nothing more than they did to Lucas all game
Three goals and three assists so far in the league for Wolves this season. Another goal in the EL.

Those aren't massive numbers, but if he keeps that up for a season that's at least respectable. If he can push on a bit from that he'll be getting into real end product territory.

As people have been saying he's improved, he showed that again against us. I don't think he's a top four player, but if he keeps improving he might actually get there.
 
Wow it was wet and we were still drenched when we got home, really enjoyed the game and Wolves are a very Good side and will not lose many home matches this season.

We were put under a lot of pressure at times but our defending as a unit is getting better under Jose, Moura scored a great goal and worked his socks of for us.

I know there is a lot of talk about Traore and he was a threat all game but Jan kept him fairly wide and was not really beaten that often, the goal was a great effort and would have been the same no matter who was marking him.
Dier is starting to get up to speed/fitness and he was always snarling in the faces of the Wolves players which is something we have lacked for while. Dier was ( imo) MOM.
 
Wow it was wet and we were still drenched when we got home, really enjoyed the game and Wolves are a very Good side and will not lose many home matches this season.

We were put under a lot of pressure at times but our defending as a unit is getting better under Jose, Moura scored a great goal and worked his socks of for us.

I know there is a lot of talk about Traore and he was a threat all game but Jan kept him fairly wide and was not really beaten that often, the goal was a great effort and would have been the same no matter who was marking him.
Dier is starting to get up to speed/fitness and he was always snarling in the faces of the Wolves players which is something we have lacked for while. Dier was ( imo) MOM.

Jan was beaten every single time. Please go back and watch the game again, when Traore wanted to cross it he crossed it, when he wanted to go past Jan he went past him. There was nothing Jan (or anyone else for that matter) could do to stop him, fortunately he wasn't crossing to anyone specific and we handled the balls into the really well.

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Jan was beaten every single time. Please go back and watch the game again, when Traore wanted to cross it he crossed it, when he wanted to go past Jan he went past him. There was nothing Jan (or anyone else for that matter) could do to stop him, fortunately he wasn't crossing to anyone specific and we handled the balls into the really well.

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It was the same with Antonio and would normally be with Zaha, Podence of Olympiakos caused the same. We struggle against this yet many do.

Traore if coached to weigh his on field decision making, could be really top class.
 
agreed, why should we let him run through, like Burnley for Son :p

Something we have needed for a while - just want us to become the horrible little barstards we have been hiding away.

Jan was beaten every single time. Please go back and watch the game again, when Traore wanted to cross it he crossed it, when he wanted to go past Jan he went past him. There was nothing Jan (or anyone else for that matter) could do to stop him, fortunately he wasn't crossing to anyone specific and we handled the balls into the really well.

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Sometimes you have to put your hands up and realise nothing you can do - I watched the Wolves game last week and he did the same then - he’s just a player in form.

What Jan did do well is not give up which has been something aimed at him pre Jose and held him up at times to allow support to come in.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50803721

'Why Spurs' midfield should concern Jose Mourinho' - Jermaine Jenas analysis

By Jermaine Jenas

I see huge limitations when I look at Tottenham's midfield at the moment.

And, while I have been massively impressed by the impact Jose Mourinho has made in his first few weeks as Spurs boss, it is an area of the team he will have to address in order to continue their upturn in form.

While Tottenham still ended up nicking all three points against Wolves on Sunday, they went long periods without having proper possession, or the ability to control the game that comes with it.

Part of the problem was pairing Eric Dier and Mohamed Sissoko together because they are just not good enough on the ball.

They do not have enough guile or finesse and if you press them, like Wolves did, they will probably give the ball away more often than not.

When that happens, you are unable to dictate the tempo of the game and you are going to concede goals.

View attachment 7861
Lack of control can prove costly
They got away with it against Wolves, but that lack of control was what cost Spurs when they lost to Manchester United at the start of this month.

Mourinho had Sissoko, Davinson Sanchez and Serge Aurier operating on the right, which bought strength and power to the team, plus athleticism - which is another attribute he likes.

But there was very little guile there and if you pressed that side of the pitch, like United did to score their opening goal, Spurs could not get out.

The Tottenham midfield has the same problem when Dier and Sissoko are together in a 4-2-3-1 shape. They played too many backward passes against Wolves.

What happens is the team tries to bypass them and attempts to get the ball to their front four as quickly as possible.

That is understandable really, because of how good those forwards are, and sometimes that direct approach will work.

But in certain games - like Wolves, United and Bayern in the past couple of weeks - you are going to be vulnerable whenever you lose the ball.

There is only so much pressure your defence can take when you are not keeping possession, and the ball is always coming straight back at them.

What Spurs need is balance
I don't think Mourinho knows his first-choice midfield pairing yet, because he has tried several different combinations already.

Dier and Sissoko have started the last three matches, but Mourinho might be thinking that he cannot rely on Harry Winks at the moment because he has been out injured.

I do think Winks fits the profile of a holding midfielder in a Mourinho team, though.

He is good on the ball, will sit in and not venture forward too often, and can get out of tight spaces. If he maintains his fitness, there will be a place for him.

With Tanguy Ndombele, I am not so sure. For me, he is probably Tottenham's best midfielder but Mourinho has not used him much when he has been fit, so I don't really know what he makes of him yet.

One player he definitely likes is Dier, who has had more minutes under him than any other midfielder.

I don't think Dier is fully fit either, because he has only started playing regularly again after spending most of the past 12 months managing injury and illness.

It could be Mourinho feels that, once Dier is 400% again, he can trust him every week to do the job he is asking him to do.

That is fine, but what Spurs need in that area is balance - and they do not get it from playing Sissoko alongside him.

Yes, Sissoko is a different kind of player because he can burst forward while he has the ball at his feet, but if you press Dier then he is either going to pass the ball backwards or kick it out of play - he is not going to go past anyone.

That might be down to a lack of fitness or confidence so I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but if Tottenham want to finish in the top four they cannot afford to be patient and wait for him to get back to form.

Until that situation is sorted, and a proper pairing emerges, then it is an area for concern - and definitely somewhere Spurs can improve.

Mourinho has restored belief

The midfield is really the only negative from Mourinho's first month as manager.

Apart from that, we have seen a huge improvement in results plus team and individual performances - such as with Dele Alli, for example.

Mourinho has already found a way of maximising Tottenham's threat from an attacking point of view, and the players have adapted to that straight away.

There has been something positive about most of their performances under him, and results have generally been good too.

One of the big things he has already identified is the vulnerability of the team, and I think he is working hard to put that right.

I don't mean any tactical weakness, more their state of mind.

Yes, part of his time has to go on coaching and setting up the team the way he wants it, but he has also been trying to restore confidence, arrogance and belief to this Spurs side.

As a team, they had completely lost that, especially at home, because they had suffered a few dodgy results there.

The final piece in the puzzle?

Overall, I think Mourinho's arrival has been really positive, and credit needs to go to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy for acting when he did.

I cannot think of anyone else connected to the club who would have made the decision then to look Mauricio Pochettino in the eye, and say 'this is the end', but Levy did.

Now the dust has settled, you can see he was right.

Levy also had a clear vision as to what he wanted the next step to be, which is not only to be competing for trophies, but winning them.

That is why he went for Mourinho - he sees him as the final piece in the puzzle.

Timing-wise, it was a great move. Other Premier League clubs sat and waited before sacking their manager, and have since delayed appointing a replacement.

Levy went ahead, because he knew exactly who he wanted.

The players deserve praise for responding in the manner they have done, but Mourinho has clearly made a difference - look at where Spurs were when he took over, and where they are now.

His objective now will still be to win a trophy this season, as well as getting in the top four, and I genuinely believe he will look at his squad and think he can do it with them.




He's not wrong, midfield is the biggest weakness for us by a distance.

IMO Dier is picking up, slowly, and actually did (broadly) ok yesterday.

Sissoko was Sissoko, not especially bad but I wouldnt say good either.

More pertinent is the fact these two just do not work together.

Watching the game I kept thinking what a difference a fit and up to speed NDombele could make.

So maybe things arent all bad...

I agree with Jenas. Think we need another body in midfield as the current two leaves us horrendously exposed. Especially with Aurier asked to play a virtual right wing and Sissoko expected to cover for him. I hope NDom is that man. Yesterday I would have had Winks in there for either Son or Moura.

I think a 4-3-3 would suit us better with our current personnel.
 
I agree with Jenas. Think we need another body in midfield as the current two leaves us horrendously exposed. Especially with Aurier asked to play a virtual right wing and Sissoko expected to cover for him. I hope NDom is that man. Yesterday I would have had Winks in there for either Son or Moura.

I think a 4-3-3 would suit us better with our current personnel.

would love us to go 4 3 3, just don’t think we have the quality fullbacks to pull it off or whether it’s beneficial for dele to be the lwf,rwf or cmf.

seems to shine brightest just behind Kane.
 
would love us to go 4 3 3, just don’t think we have the quality fullbacks to pull it off or whether it’s beneficial for dele to be the lwf,rwf or cmf.

seems to shine brightest just behind Kane.

It’s a wonky. Dele still next to Kane with either Son or Moura providing the width- assisted by Aurier’s overlaps.
 
I agree with Jenas. Think we need another body in midfield as the current two leaves us horrendously exposed. Especially with Aurier asked to play a virtual right wing and Sissoko expected to cover for him. I hope NDom is that man. Yesterday I would have had Winks in there for either Son or Moura.

I think a 4-3-3 would suit us better with our current personnel.
Hasn’t hurt us so far
Maybe we should trust in the manager
I mean he has won more trophies on his own than the club have ever
 
Jan was beaten every single time. Please go back and watch the game again, when Traore wanted to cross it he crossed it, when he wanted to go past Jan he went past him. There was nothing Jan (or anyone else for that matter) could do to stop him, fortunately he wasn't crossing to anyone specific and we handled the balls into the really well.

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He got beaten, that will happen when the difference in pace is so severe and with the dribbling ability Traore has. What Vertonghen managed to do was to position himself well and keep up with Traore so that the crosses were almost always under pressure and this usually of lower quality.

Watch it again and count the times Traore got properly behind Vertonghen and could pick out a cross or a cut back with time to aim and deliver a good ball. Or count the times Traore got behind Vertonghen to get away a shot or could run at Alderweireld with space to attack.

My impression was that those situations that would be much more dangerous happened rarely. Had that been Rose or Aurier I think it would have happened more. And it wasn't like we shifted our entire team across to help out Vertonghen, though he obviously got a fair bit of protection, as he should.

Traore was a constant problem, as was highlighted before the game. Vertonghen struggled and had to dig deep into his defensive qualities, as was predicted. Vertonghen did well though, as well as can be expected, and better than others in our squad would have done imo.
 
Jan was beaten every single time. Please go back and watch the game again, when Traore wanted to cross it he crossed it, when he wanted to go past Jan he went past him. There was nothing Jan (or anyone else for that matter) could do to stop him, fortunately he wasn't crossing to anyone specific and we handled the balls into the really well.

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We will disagree over that, Jan held him up more often then not and when he got done Jan had pushed him out into a area where he never really laid any decent crosses on target. And i have watched it back since we got home and all it did was confirmed what i saw/thought at the game.
 
We will disagree over that, Jan held him up more often then not and when he got done Jan had pushed him out into a area where he never really laid any decent crosses on target. And i have watched it back since we got home and all it did was confirmed what i saw/thought at the game.
That’s where you’ve wrong.
He didn’t tell you to watch it back! He told you to ‘go back’.
So, sorry, off yer toddle. Get the car keys and three hours up the M6 to a freezing dark Molineux you go - at least Billy Wright will be there to keep you company! ;-)
 
Hasn’t hurt us so far
Maybe we should trust in the manager
I mean he has won more trophies on his own than the club have ever

Yes I know - but he himself has said he is not totally familiar with our whole squad.

The better teams (Utd, Bayern and Wolves) have all exploited this weakness in midfield. I understand JM being prepared to gamble on the strength of our attackers against the weaker sides, but am venturing to suggest we might adopt a more pragmatic approach against the better sides. It will be interesting to see what he does against Chelsea if Ndom and Winks are fully fit.
 
Yes I know - but he himself has said he is not totally familiar with our whole squad.

The better teams (Utd, Bayern and Wolves) have all exploited this weakness in midfield. I understand JM being prepared to gamble on the strength of our attackers against the weaker sides, but am venturing to suggest we might adopt a more pragmatic approach against the better sides. It will be interesting to see what he does against Chelsea if Ndom and Winks are fully fit.

How did united exploit it or wolves?

both seemed to have a plan to take it wide to either rashford or traore. That was their threat 90% of the time
 
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