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OMT - Tottenham Hotspur vs PSG

Thanks mate - I did take a break last year. Not just GG, online in general. Kept an eye on everyone here, but otherwise refrained from pitching in.

Didn't know how deep I was in a spiral of online misery until I did - and once I stepped away, I realized so much of what I was getting angry about online didn't matter.

I'd like to think (and hope) I'm a bit less angry about everything now. :)
Everything? Even Levy/ENIC? 😜
Jesting of course.
 
Disappointed about tonights result but not in a negative way at all. I'm only disappointed as we came so close to have the bragging rights.

We were very good tonight. Frank's attention to detail and his ability to extract the best out of his squad was very noticeable. PSG, as the best team in Europe, were run close. They won the penalty lottery.

The best example I can give is Danso's throw. I didn't even notice under Ange that Danso had that monster throw in him. Even though he was selected in that RCB/RB role he was out there on the left wing launching throws into their penalty spot and they were creating havoc. Frank had switched things around for these moves so our throw-ins were like corners. It is this type of coaching that I appreciate as a fan.

The hybrid 4/5 at the back was so effective that we had 2 of the world's most skilful players subbed off the pitch in the second half.

I hope the optimism now builds in the fan base.

Well said.

I think there's lots of little things that should give us confidence. Danso's long throws, and more generally, our newfound threat at set pieces (which is credit to Andreas Gregson as well as Frank). The ease with which we kept PSG at bay for so long. The instinctive ease to our possession play in the first half. Our ability to play a 3-at-the-back system for the first time in a semi-competitive game, and not look out of place. The understanding Palhinha and Bentancur seem to already have.

There's lots of things that, to my mind, add up to one difference between last year and this year - details. Frank is clearly a stickler for them, and it's clear to see he focuses on them. That bodes well for us, provided we can get him some more tools before the window closes.
 
Yah, but Kulu will eventually return and then we have Eze and Kulu for the middle. Great options of course but the left is still lacking. Whereas adding Savio gets us a quality left winger and assuming we don't bring in say El Khanous Kulu will eventually return. So is rather have Savio for left and Kuku for the middle than Tel/Odobert for the left and Kuku/Eze in the middle.

I know you're gonna respond with Eze being able to play out wide and sure he can but not to the level we want really. Like you say he dictates, his natural game is that if an AM not a winger. There's a reason we are looking at Savio for width and Eze for the centre.
His natural game is being a street baller
We are missing that
Savio for me plays very similar to Odobert
Eze plays like no one we have
Ideally we get both and then have a quantity issue again
 
Disappointed about tonights result but not in a negative way at all. I'm only disappointed as we came so close to have the bragging rights.

We were very good tonight. Frank's attention to detail and his ability to extract the best out of his squad was very noticeable. PSG, as the best team in Europe, were run close. They won the penalty lottery.

The best example I can give is Danso's throw. I didn't even notice under Ange that Danso had that monster throw in him. Even though he was selected in that RCB/RB role he was out there on the left wing launching throws into their penalty spot and they were creating havoc. Frank had switched things around for these moves so our throw-ins were like corners. It is this type of coaching that I appreciate as a fan.

The hybrid 4/5 at the back was so effective that we had 2 of the world's most skilful players subbed off the pitch in the second half.

I hope the optimism now builds in the fan base.
The throw in thing came off a training ground competition they had
Frank is all about marginal gains and that rally showed tonight
 
One look at Instagram and twitter and my heart sinks. I don't particularly rate Tel but the levels of abuse and racism towards the lad is a shocker. The banana emojis in his Instagram comments is fcuked

If you are a 40 to 50 year old man hammering down like that on a 20 year old kid then you are a cnut
 
His natural game is being a street baller
We are missing that
Savio for me plays very similar to Odobert
Eze plays like no one we have
Ideally we get both and then have a quantity issue again
A higher level version of Odobert (who is my favourite for the left of our existing options). Savio/Odobert fighting out is not a bad place to be at all. With Eze/Kulu though the middle.
 
Everything? Even Levy/ENIC? 😜
Jesting of course.

Ha! Even them - I even took down that picture of his I had plastered on my dartboard, and boxed up that voodoo doll that @parklane1 keeps reminding me of. ;)

I think that night in Bilbao brought a lot of healing to a lot of people, and I count myself among them. It's why I'll always be grateful to Ange - he healed a wound I had been carrying for a long time up to that point.

Though, don't get me wrong, new owners would be great. But if not - que sera sera mate. ;)
 
One loon at Instagram and twitter and my heart sinks. I don't particularly rate Tel but the levels of abuse and racism towards the lad is a shocker. The banana emojis in his Instagram comments is fcuked

If you are a 40 to 50 year old man hammering down like that on a 20 year old kid then you are a cnut
Wasn't even the only one to miss, but Van de Ven won't get a fraction of the stick he will.

Eze had a very perceptive interview a while back where he explained that what he eventually learned was that social media doesn't mean anything. The abuse, the stick, the repulsive racism - none of it means anything beyond that the people typing it out have problems in their life and need to take it out on you, by saying things they wouldn't dare say to to your face.

I hope someone is reminding Tel of that tonight.
 
Wasn't even the only one to miss, but Van de Ven won't get a fraction of the stick he will.

Eze had a very perceptive interview a while back where he explained that what he eventually learned was that social media doesn't mean anything. The abuse, the stick, the repulsive racism - none of it means anything beyond that the people typing it out have problems in their life and need to take it out on you, by saying things they wouldn't dare say to to your face.

I hope someone is reminding Tel of that tonight.
So true mate
 
Nice words from Luis. And as mentioned, one could probably blame the fact that PSG hasn’t played pre-season matches, but they did have plenty of games this summer. I don’t want it to be about Tel and Solanke being poor, but from what I’ve seen, I don’t see Solanke as a +15 goal player, and I believe there’s more talent in Moore than in Tel. This could, of course, change, and I hope it does. Perhaps he’s struggling with the pace. I’m unsure if this is Tottenham’s tactic and whether we’ll play with three at the back. But I think Solanke isn’t where he should be during attacks. I’m uncertain about what Johnson would have brought to the team if he’d been subbed on late. Many players should be proud of their effort and quality. 10 out of 11 get a solid passing grade.
 
Gutted to lose it as we did but very encouraged overall by the way we played.
I certainly feel more optimistic about this coming season than I thought I would.
Loved the way Frank walked around the whole perimeter of the Spurs fans at the end - as close to the stands as he could get.
Sounded like a great atmosphere, did you enjoy it ??
 
Thanks mate - I did take a break last year. Not just GG, online in general. Kept an eye on everyone here, but otherwise refrained from pitching in.

Didn't know how deep I was in a spiral of online misery until I did - and once I stepped away, I realized so much of what I was getting angry about online didn't matter.

I'd like to think (and hope) I'm a bit less angry about everything now. :)
😍

Did you self identify this problem ?

And how did you help yourself? Behaviour change? Interventions?
 
I think Tel has the right manager in TF to bring the best out of him. It may still not be enough but surely it's too early to judge? TF converted both Mbeumo and Watkins from left wingers to play more centrally, so he has form. Let's wait and see and give the lad our support.

Yeah, I’m not at all convinced, but he deserves time and patience. Agree that having TF working with him gives him the best chance. I’m not sure the club has even worked out what his best position is yet.

As for the penalty miss, can happen to anyone. It was ALMOST perfect.
 
The throw in thing came off a training ground competition they had
Frank is all about marginal gains and that rally showed tonight
The only downside is it would be good to have Big Kev in there on the end of them rather than his Danso Delap impression out on the touchline.

(And of course, if this is an ongoing tactic does it secure Big Kev a starting place?)
 
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