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*** OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Saudi Sportswashing Machine FC ***

Robspur12 said:
I have to say, isnt this entirely predictable? Once you get a side ravaged by injuries and short on players in certain areas then the remaining Players start to get run down physically and are more prone to injury/illness. It’s not rocket science. And interestingly, it’s the defence again arguably the area of the team most under pressure from injury and Ange’s style of play. That can’t just be coincidence. If you are the manager you need to have strategy to protect your remaining players so they do not succumb to illness or injury before your cover is back. Injuries have become his go-to excuse now. I’m afraid you have to deal with them at the top level and do all you can to minimise them including having more than 1 tactical system that takes some of the load off your defence.
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It’s not clear from your post, are you blaming Ange for the virus that Radu had?
 
Muttley said:
I do agree that Joelinton's action was a disguised hand-to-ball today. I'm not sure in what universe a defending team doesn't get the benefit of the doubt either even if it is 50:50. I'm pretty convinced if that had been Kulu at the other end, the whistle would have blown. Joelinton didn't have to bring his hand from behind his back to where the ball flight was that quickly. It didn't look natural to me, and I'm convinced Joelinton was just willing to give away the petty free-kick. That is the nature of the player.
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He want hand balling it to create a goal but to stop our play
Same as burn did later
And your right, it’s exactly what he does and gets away with every game
 
tommysvr said:
It’s not clear from your post, are you blaming Ange for the virus that Radu had?
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Can’t speak for him, but to me it’s pretty clear he’s not. What about engaging with the ideas Robspur posted. That the defence is depleted, demoralised and stressed but continues to play the exact same way. What’s the old saying about doing things the same way over and over but expecting different results.
 
Where is our next 3 points coming from? I would just like to stay up now this season. Maybe Leicester at home? Lose the next two away PL games and I’m crying more than I am now
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Fans will blame Ange for everything and anything if they can
Luck has no say in things anymore
Still not sure how son and maddsion got it as their defending is none existent
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Funny how Maddison has more league goals than Johnson this season from a deeper position but you’re not happy with his overall output (or Son’s from last season) but fine with Johnson. I can’t reconcile the asymmetry.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
The joelinton one is subjective
But he gets away with footballing murder game after game
The Burn one was sheer incompetence and panic from a referee they were managing
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The first crime of the day was not issuing the yellow for the bad foul on Porro.

The major problem here is that VAR can't just watch it quickly, advice the ref and share the premeditation of intent to hurt Porro. They don't get involved unless it is to upgrade a yellow. Still nowhere for Madley to hide though. The yellow should have been obvious as ref's work from right back to right back diagonally. He was close enough to the play.
 
Robspur12 said:
I have to say, isnt this entirely predictable? Once you get a side ravaged by injuries and short on players in certain areas then the remaining Players start to get run down physically and are more prone to injury/illness. It’s not rocket science. And interestingly, it’s the defence again arguably the area of the team most under pressure from injury and Ange’s style of play. That can’t just be coincidence. If you are the manager you need to have strategy to protect your remaining players so they do not succumb to illness or injury before your cover is back. Injuries have become his go-to excuse now. I’m afraid you have to deal with them at the top level and do all you can to minimise them including having more than 1 tactical system that takes some of the load off your defence.
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We have agreed on much over the years but I have to wonder what you're seeing to come ip with this conclusion?

Postecoglu doesn't use the injuries as an excuse, he answers questions about them and always says that we have to get on with it.

Defence under injury pressure? The whole side is. Richarlison and Odobert have been long-timers.

And viruses are viruses...

I think when you are where we are squad depth wise, any style of play brings pressure. Personally, I think going long creates another type of pressure on tired young defences. We have modified what we do since the defensive injuries FWIW.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Can’t speak for him, but to me it’s pretty clear he’s not. What about engaging with the ideas Robspur posted. That the defence is depleted, demoralised and stressed but continues to play the exact same way. What’s the old saying about doing things the same way over and over but expecting different results.
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We most certainly did not play the same way. We were launching it into Solanke for a lot of the game, Reguillon definitely not tucking in and I don’t think Porro was doing it as much either.
 
Batspur said:
Tottenham’s wages to turnover stands at a startling 47%, the lowest in the Premier League. That could be construed as the sign of a well-run club, but it also hints at a lack of ambition.


Hmmmm tough one.
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Nope, we have the best stadium, medical facility, highest revenue with non football events and the highest prices for tickets and shirts. Tottenham is the best run club in the universe and Levy is a genius that has saved the club from doom and paying him and his board the highest salaries is just not good enough.
 
thfcsteff said:
We have agreed on much over the years but I have to wonder what you're seeing to come ip with this conclusion?

Postecoglu doesn't use the injuries as an excuse, he answers questions about them and always says that we have to get on with it.

Defence under injury pressure? The whole side is. Richarlison and Odobert have been long-timers.

And viruses are viruses...

I think when you are where we are squad depth wise, any style of play brings pressure. Personally, I think going long creates another type of pressure on tired young defences. We have modified what we do since the defensive injuries FWIW.
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Thanks for the reply Steff and as you say mostly we agree. Let me be clear though I am not blaming Ange for causing and spreading a virus.

My assertion is that the players especially those in the defence are now under such physical stress that they are particularly susceptible to injuries and illness. Although Odobert and Richie are injured, the biggest cluster of absentees are in defence. Is it just a coincidence?

It's not 1 player but 3 and they are in arguably the most physical and mentally demanding roles in the team. They are fatigued and run down hence susceptible to picking up illness as well as injuries. I am also suggesting the high intensity way we play is putting their bodies under even more pressure. I think it's a valid question even if you don't agree.

Taken from the BBC article.

Does Postecoglou's approach risk more injuries?
Tottenham's dramatic slide down the league has coincided with a defensive injury crisis - worsened by Destiny Odogie's absence.

Going into Saturday's match, they had the most players unavailable in the Premier League with 11 players out and a sickness bug in the squad.

The Spurs boss has insisted his side's poor form is a result of the club's injury crisis and has previously said a concerning rate of recurring injuries is under review, following the appointment of a new head of medical and new head of sports science in the summer.

But is the team's non-stop approach one of the reasons for the amount of injuries? It might be, along with other factors, including having played 33% more games than at this stage last season.

Before the defeat by Saudi Sportswashing Machine, only Bournemouth and Ipswich had run more than the 2,129.2km covered by Spurs players in their first 19 games.

Dejan Kulusevski had run more distance (205.4km) than any other player in the Premier League this season.

Dominic Solanke, Kulusevski, Udogie and Son Heung-min all ranked in the top 20 for sprints in the league. No other club had more than two players in the top 20.

Professor of Sports Medicine at the University of Northampton, Bill Ribbans, said: "In order to play Postecoglou's style of play, you have to be both incredibly fit and have pace.

"With it, that risks injury. Postecoglou has obviously had a very impressive managerial career but managing in the Premier League is pretty intense and unrelenting. There are a high number of games at [Postecoglou's previous club] Celtic and in the Scottish division but he won 72 per cent of them and may have felt able to rotate and still win.

"It's very different in the Premier League to rotate and still have the same standard of performance to win."
 
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Robspur12 said:
Thanks for the reply Steff and mostly we agree. Let me be clear though I am not blaming Ange for causing and spreading a virus.

My assertion is that the players especially those in the defence are now under such physical stress that they are particularly susceptible to injuries and illness. Although Odobert and Richie are injured, the biggest cluster of absentees are in defence. Is it just a coincidence?

It's not 1 player but 3 and they are in arguably the most physical and mentally demanding roles in the team. They are fatigued and run down hence susceptible to picking up illness as well as injuries. I am also suggesting the high intensity way we play is putting their bodies under even more pressure. I think it's a valid question even if you don't agree.
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Arse players also picked up the virus.
 
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