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OMT ***Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United***

billyiddo said:
Alli makes proper contact and it's a goal 99 times out of 100, Uniteds were all half chances that would have taken poor goal keeping or amazing finishes to score from. (Asides from the goal which was gifted to them)
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Again, that's a chance at full stretch, that allowed for precisely one touch, that had to be good enough to get past De Gea who was literally a yard from Alli when the ball fell to him.

A chance which only allows for one touch, namely the shot...is usually (though not always) not a good chance.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Again, that's a chance at full stretch, that allowed for precisely one touch, that had to be good enough to get past De Gea who was literally a yard from Alli when the ball fell to him.

A chance which only allows for one touch, namely the shot...is usually (though not always) not a good chance.
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I beg to differ
 
DubaiSpur said:
That's not the best way to judge chances. If you have twenty shots on target from outside the box but all of them were saved, versus an opponent who had four shots on target that all went in, from the center of the box, with no one around the strikers...who had the better chances?
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Yeah fair comment but none of the chances you talked about went in

They weren’t even on target were they?
 
billyiddo said:
I beg to differ
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Fair enough, but I will point out that, as per you metric, all of United's chances were top-quality ones too. Most of theirs also required an instant shot/header, and if they had *only* gotten the right touch, we would have been down 3 or 4-0.
 
Neither of the Lukaku chances were that great - he pulled off a fantastic header from a ball played behind him and Vertonghen (?) ushered the real danger away from the shot he had across goal, would have taken an unbelievable shot to score from that position.

Had we conceded from either of those instances id have been looking at the goalkeeper or just holding hands up to an out of the ordinary finish.
 
@DubaiSpur you are completely over reacting. Their squad has 25 top tier players and we don’t? Give me a break. I’d have our squad over theirs’ any day.

As for comparing chances, how can you judge Lukaku being forced totally wide by JV as a full chance but call Alli’s a half chance? Alli should have scored that, and would have done 99 times out of 100. It’s as clear as day, he just needs to make normal contact and it’s in, exactly like at Saudi Sportswashing Machine in the first game.

We need to remember the context of the game. It’s at Mourinho’s home ground, and chances are never going to be easy to come by, for either side. And they weren’t. A draw wouldn’t have looked out of place, and Alli’s chance going in would have given us a massive boost to get a result. We also bullied them in the first half I thought, and they came back more physical in the second. A balanced game ruined by a terrible lack of concentration from one of our better players.

I think Dier was in to give us flexibility if needed, and he was great up until the goal, which has ruined it. I think Sissoko was in to make us solid, particularly at the start of the game, and for the first half we were good physically as a team.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
@DubaiSpur you are completely over reacting. Their squad has 25 top tier players and we don’t? Give me a break. I’d have our squad over theirs’ any day.

As for comparing chances, how can you judge Lukaku being forced totally wide by JV as a full chance but call Alli’s a half chance? Alli should have scored that, and would have done 99 times out of 100. It’s as clear as day, he just needs to make normal contact and it’s in, exactly like at Saudi Sportswashing Machine in the first game.

We need to remember the context of the game. It’s at Mourinho’s home ground, and chances are never going to be easy to come by, for either side. And they weren’t. A draw wouldn’t have looked out of place, and Alli’s chance going in would have given us a massive boost to get a result. We also bullied them in the first half I thought, and they came back more physical in the second. A balanced game ruined by a terrible lack of concentration from one of our better players.

I think Dier was in to give us flexibility if needed, and he was great up until the goal, which has ruined it. I think Sissoko was in to make us solid, particularly at the start of the game, and for the first half we were good physically as a team.
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Their squad will not win the league. City's will. I take it you would have their squad over ours?

As for comparing chances, if Alli's is a glorious chance, then so are the four or so United created. If Alli's is a half chance, so are the United ones. The point is that they created four or five to our one.

The context of the game is what is being forgotten - we threw the Carabao Cup game so we could be prepared for this. And that was viewed as a great decision by many of our fans. Now, we have lost both games, which doesn't scream great decision-making.

And it wasn't balanced in both halves. We were better overall in the first half, they dominated in the second. But their dominance counted, while we huffed on air for ninety minutes just like we did last year at Old Trafford.
 
United are are not a patch on City offensively!
United considering their resources are quite not up to where they should be.
Remember where we sit in the money rankings people.
 
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