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***OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool***

K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I did not want to post this but feel I must to explain my position, I always believe we should select our strongest team, rotation is a fad, resting players who need a break is ok with me but the bloody stupid XI players (I wouldn't grace them with the term teams) we use to put out was a disgrace and showed a lack of respect to our opponents and more importantly the poor mugs who paid and travelled to games. I don't fancy us to beat Liverpool in the tie even with our best available players as I think they are physically spent, when I write protect the players I'm thinking if or when we reach a point in the game where defeat is inevitable we sub as many as possible. I do not like suggesting we might lose any game as I tend to hope for the best and did not wish to lay it out so plainly in my original post.
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Have you ever noticed how the best managers do it? It is really subtle. They might make only one or two changes but everyone gets a turn to rest. In Pep's case, he can sometimes remove a player for a month in the first half of the season and then laugh at everyone when they're tearing it up in the second half of the season.

I always remember in 2018 after the Russia WC when everyone was saying that Hendo was a spent force as Klopp never selected him in the early part of the season. According to some, his legs had gone and he would be exiting the club. At the end of the season he's holding the CL aloft. The next season it's the PL title. It was 5 years later when he actually left the club. It was just Klopp using data science to know that he had to get his player recharged after a long stint of playing week in week out.

There is an art to subtly changing your best team to give everyone a turn at recharging.
 
spurspinter1 said:
We've definitely got a chance, but not much of one. It was easier to impress in a game which becomes meaningless in the grand scheme of the competition if we stack it in the 2nd leg. We could have a 3 goal league and I'd still be bricking it tbf....

Plus, in the simplest terms, it's a team in 1st place compared to a team in 15th. We're deep enough into the season to be relatively informed by league standings, even if it doesn't tell us the whole picture. They're a very good team, and we're showing positive signs and by these season's standards, are in decent form.

We may as well give it a go (obviously you aren't suggesting we shouldn't) but I have a feeling we'll need a lot to go our way. Here's hoping it does and Saudi Sportswashing Machine can what they need to tonight to set up an intriguing final.
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Agreed that Liverpool are fairly solid favourites and we probably need some things to go our way to go through.

But certainly possible. We'll probably need at least a goal. Really could do with scoring first.
 
spurspinter1 said:
We've definitely got a chance, but not much of one. It was easier to impress in a game which becomes meaningless in the grand scheme of the competition if we stack it in the 2nd leg. We could have a 3 goal league and I'd still be bricking it tbf....

Plus, in the simplest terms, it's a team in 1st place compared to a team in 15th. We're deep enough into the season to be relatively informed by league standings, even if it doesn't tell us the whole picture. They're a very good team, and we're showing positive signs and by these season's standards, are in decent form.

We may as well give it a go (obviously you aren't suggesting we shouldn't) but I have a feeling we'll need a lot to go our way. Here's hoping it does and Saudi Sportswashing Machine can what they need to tonight to set up an intriguing final.
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Indeed. The thing about supporting Spurs over the last 15 years is that we've got a genuine chance of beating anyone.

We've also got a genuine chance of losing to anyone, of course. That's who we are, mate.
 
Yiddo said:
A semi final second leg at Anfield under the lights, i think we are going to bottle it.
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I can only see a 3-0 or 3-1 home win (a late goal from us maybe to give hope at the death) with the current state of both squads

Once the draw came out I just hoped that the 2nd leg wasn't a dead rubber so they couldn't rest players and still hard work to do, which thankfully we have done

As luck has it, they have Plymouth next in the Cup so can put a strong team out tomorrow and rest a shedload for Sunday. Naturally with our luck we don't have that luxury at the weekend
 
Ange Postecoglou has revealed that Micky van de Ven is unlikely to feature in Thursday's Carabao Cup semi-final second leg against Liverpool.

The defender, who was 'kept on ice' for Sunday's win at Brentford as a precautionary measure, continues to build his fitness at Hotspur Way after returning from injury in last week's Europa League win over Elfsborg. Ange said both Micky and Cristian Romero - out since early December - will continue to 'tick over' in training until they are 'absolutely ready' - not least with Radu Dragusin now ruled out with a serious knee injury.

Speaking in his press conference on Wednesday morning, Ange said: "With Micky, and Romero to a certain extent, I feel like we've got to be a bit more conservative with them. Micky got through the game alright, but I don't think he feels he's ready for that step up to the Premier League, the intensity of it. The same with Romero. Look, after losing Radu for the rest of the season, really disappointing for him and for us, my view and decision is that we're not going to risk these guys, keep them ticking over in training and try to make sure they are absolutely ready, without any more setbacks. The other guys who are edging closer as well, similar lines with them as well."

Asked later in the press conference if the issue with Micky was fitness, or discomfort, Ange replied: "It's a bit of everything. He got through the game (against Elfsborg) no problem, but we had a look at the figures, in terms of physical (output in the game) and he does a lot more in training, and he got through it okay.

"The Premier League is a whole different beast. After losing Radu, I sat down and thought about what we had ahead of us still... don't get me wrong, we've got a couple of massive games this week, for sure, but we've also bought ourselves a couple of weeks without midweek fixtures (in February) and beyond that, Europe kicks in, which is massive for us, hopefully we're in a final in the Carabao Cup, hopefully we’re still in the FA Cup. I just don’t see the sense right now in risking that.

"Having Kevin (Danso) in is a massive bonus for us. He hasn’t re-injured the injury or anything like that. I just feel we need to get more into him, I think he feels he needs to get more into him, same with Romero, so it will just be a wait and see approach."

Micky and Cuti are currently joined on the sidelines by Guglielmo Vicario, Radu Dragusin, Destiny Udogie, James Maddison, Wilson Odobert, Timo Werner, Dominic Solanke and Brennan Johnson.
 
Yiddo said:
A semi final second leg at Anfield under the lights, i think we are going to bottle it.
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We may lose but why do we have to bottle it? There 's too much of this putting our own team down and following a trend set by those who dislike us, there's no disgrace in losing if you've done your best, totally lack of moderation in football everything must be set at an extreme point.
 
Yiddo said:
A semi final second leg at Anfield under the lights, i think we are going to bottle it.
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Bottle it? That would mean we'd be massive favorites, but then lose.
We certainly aren't favourites! fudging far from it! Liverpool are probably the best team in the world right now, and in stellar form.
We're anything but that, plus we haven't won there since the last ice age!
 
Kandi1977 said:
Bottle it? That would mean we'd be massive favorites, but then lose.
We certainly aren't favourites! fudging far from it! Liverpool are probably the best team in the world right now, and in stellar form.
We're anything but that, plus we haven't won there since the last ice age!
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Since May 2011, but overall point still stands
 
nattenskonge said:
Anyone els thin that If we make the final we should rest every player we can against Aston villa? Having the final and euro and the League position we are in, we dont have the squad to go all in for the Fa…
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I think it's a radical POV but our squad is still thin and needs to be managed well if we want to avoid getting in a relegation fight and the chance of a trophy, the odds of us winning or reaching 3 finals are remote at best, we need to set a target and prioritise it.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I think it's a radical POV but our squad is still thin and needs to be managed well if we want to avoid getting in a relegation fight and the chance of a trophy, the odds of us winning or reaching 3 finals are remote at best, we need to set a target and prioritise it.
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You prioritise the next two game because they are the only oems this week
Then you focus on the United game a week later
 
nelto said:
Weren’t we the first team to not benefit from the away goal rule when we lost to Chelsea on penalties in 2018?
We’re the unluckiest club in the world.
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Not as important, but Sons penalty against Rochdale (?) where the ref gave a free kick to them (not even a retake!) because he didn’t strike the ball in one motion.

Never seen that before or since.
 
nattenskonge said:
Anyone els thin that If we make the final we should rest every player we can against Aston villa? Having the final and euro and the League position we are in, we dont have the squad to go all in for the Fa…
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Personally agree as not bothered about the FA Cup at all. Let’s go all out to beat Liverpool, go as far as we can in Europe and could potentially be in two finals.

TBH even if “all” we did was won the Carabao Cup and finish 10th in the league at least we’ve still won something.
 
elyid said:
Not as important, but Sons penalty against Rochdale (?) where the ref gave a free kick to them (not even a retake!) because he didn’t strike the ball in one motion.

Never seen that before or since.
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Booked him for it as well.
 
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