On the train back from the lane now. The subs really changed the game for us. Ade was so good at holding the ball. What he was doing execptionally in the first half was providing an outlet to the midfield, he was running into centre mid holding off the defender taking the ball at feet and distributing it. We lost that when he went off. I really thibk defoe should have gone off. In that situation we needed a player who could hold onto tthethe ball and distribute. I would habe loved to see eriksen in that game. Someone who could have picked open a defence. Yes the players were kanckered but really felt ade should have continued.
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***OMT***Tottenham Hotspur FC v West Ham
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Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
We have a kid at u21 level rated as the next Vertonghen/King. Why wasnt he tried?
Kingdawson
Banned
It's amazing that i've never seen you post this sentence before...ever (well not since the beginning of last season anyway).
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
I believe in Ade like you do. I really think he can and will be positive for the team.
Agreed we need those lads back. I do like that Rose was playing some down-the-line balls to Andros a la BAE/Bale though. We have the quality in the squad. I know the situation isn't ideal at the moment but we did look somewhat like the Spurs we love tonight.
It could be a 'point to prove' performance which backfired. I don't understand the subs myself. We were absolutely dominant before that.
POSITIVITY STEFF!!!!
In our losses to Spam, City and Liverpool we were useless all over, though we did create one or two chances. Against Saudi Sportswashing Machine we had several. Our attacking play today felt aimless to me. I was mostly annoyed by the insistence on getting the ball out wide to put in crosses we wouldn't score from. That West Ham defense will clear those 99% of the time, it's on the ground they're vulnerable. Felt like overcompensating to move away from AVB's tactics.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
How much have you seen of Veljkovic?
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
**** all but he cant be that hyped and be worse centre half than Capoue.
Even AVB give up on Capoue with 10 minutes to go on Sunday moving Walker in the middle and Lennon to right back and Capoue into midfield.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Taking ade off was the game changer.
That sub says 'we are going to try and contain you in the middle 3rd instead of the final 3rd as we have done do far'
The problem with that is, if you get the better of us, you only have our defense to beat instead of mf and df
That's a risky strategy at any inny time.
With a fragile week and a patched up df, it's an idiots decisin
I said as soon as ade went offe
That sub says 'we are going to try and contain you in the middle 3rd instead of the final 3rd as we have done do far'
The problem with that is, if you get the better of us, you only have our defense to beat instead of mf and df
That's a risky strategy at any inny time.
With a fragile week and a patched up df, it's an idiots decisin
I said as soon as ade went offe
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
A balanced summation.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Off we'd lose 2-1, but I thought wed at least make extra time
Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
So much for having rested with the ball all season up until now.
Sorry. I liked the way we played in the first 35 minutes, but it seemed as though the nerves got to us when we didn't get a goal. Didn't get the same hold of the game in the second half, and the subs were not good. Some absolutely shocking defending from Chirices and Fryers today. Chirices just plays with too high a risk, Zeki is just not good enough, I'm afraid.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
So much for having rested with the ball all season up until now.
Another young player who someone on here says isn't good enough. Rose was the last LB that many on here said wasn't good enough and he has so far matured into a decent (fragile) LB. Give the kids a chance!!!
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Sherwood is clearly in a much better position to judge that. He's an 18 year old kid that's highly rated, but from that to performing against a PL team and a PL team known specifically for being physically strong is a big step. To assume that he can't be worse than Capoue when you haven't seen him play seems rather ridiculous.
Cochise
Steve Carr
+1
The moment I saw the formation, it seemed that they were trying to move the team away from anything remotely AVB like. No Lamela even on the bench when I think AVB woulda used him and Eriksen to give them some minutes. With that said, our team looks so bad right now. If we are going for a 442 then it really has to be a case of dropping all our midfielders and only playing Sandro and Eriksen, because none of the others offer enough. Holtby maybe, but expecting Dembele, Sig, Lamela or Paulinho to pull the strings in a two man midfield is mad
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Not too bothered really as (a) I think we would lose to Emirates Marketing Project in the semis and (b) I don't necessarily want Sherwood to shine and look brilliant for a few games... I want Levy to really have a good think about what to do next, and not just think "oh, that lad over there got us 3 wins, maybe he is The Messiah" as I'm not at all sure he is
Let's concentrate on the league.
Let's concentrate on the league.
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
Well, just trying to take it all in whilst simultaneously hearing from Alan Davies on QI that a Koala's intestines are over a mile long.
Interesting starting line-up, and early performance was fairly good. Observation that Ade was back defending at some points, and earliest attempts at goal were 'hack & slay' variety rather than pass into the net type. Lennon very good, Walker largely holding back just in case. Cannot believe our crap corners to their rather trustworthy keeper, why was Andros not taking outswinging corners on the left ??.
Later in 1st half we were slowing up and getting pushed back, although the weather might have been playing a part as both sides started a sequence of U-10s errors.
Couldn't believe that Rose taken off after making excellent move through their midfield, also that we then had three blokes behind the resultant free kick and no-one in the box. Goal was good, so [sarcasm] the obvious thing is take the scorer off [/sarcasm]. Since when have we been a side to defend a shallow (or even a huge) lead ?
Personally (unpaid, unwelcome opinion) my sub would have been Fredericks for Siggurdson, but moving Walker behind the attack with fresh legs belting down the wing behind/with Lennon. Unorthodox, but play to your strengths.
Central defence was diffy, and we repeatedly fail to get our heads to the high ball in. Passing got worse, heavy 'incisive' passes a feature of this match to continue the recent past.
And lastly, I HATE having to view a Spurs bench full of masticators, especially with mouths open - it's disgusting, you pigs!!!!!. It only stopped when they all became 'tight-lipped, ashen-faced, Ron Knee' impersonators in the last 10 mins. (Private Eyes passim)
Shape up or ship out !!!.
Interesting starting line-up, and early performance was fairly good. Observation that Ade was back defending at some points, and earliest attempts at goal were 'hack & slay' variety rather than pass into the net type. Lennon very good, Walker largely holding back just in case. Cannot believe our crap corners to their rather trustworthy keeper, why was Andros not taking outswinging corners on the left ??.
Later in 1st half we were slowing up and getting pushed back, although the weather might have been playing a part as both sides started a sequence of U-10s errors.
Couldn't believe that Rose taken off after making excellent move through their midfield, also that we then had three blokes behind the resultant free kick and no-one in the box. Goal was good, so [sarcasm] the obvious thing is take the scorer off [/sarcasm]. Since when have we been a side to defend a shallow (or even a huge) lead ?
Personally (unpaid, unwelcome opinion) my sub would have been Fredericks for Siggurdson, but moving Walker behind the attack with fresh legs belting down the wing behind/with Lennon. Unorthodox, but play to your strengths.
Central defence was diffy, and we repeatedly fail to get our heads to the high ball in. Passing got worse, heavy 'incisive' passes a feature of this match to continue the recent past.
And lastly, I HATE having to view a Spurs bench full of masticators, especially with mouths open - it's disgusting, you pigs!!!!!. It only stopped when they all became 'tight-lipped, ashen-faced, Ron Knee' impersonators in the last 10 mins. (Private Eyes passim)
Shape up or ship out !!!.
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
Well, just trying to take it all in whilst simultaneously hearing from Alan Davies on QI that a Koala's intestines are over a mile long.
Interesting starting line-up, and early performance was fairly good. Observation that Ade was back defending at some points, and earliest attempts at goal were 'hack & slay' variety rather than pass into the net type. Lennon very good, Walker largely holding back just in case. Cannot believe our crap corners to their rather trustworthy keeper, why was Andros not taking outswinging corners on the left ??.
Later in 1st half we were slowing up and getting pushed back, although the weather might have been playing a part as both sides started a sequence of U-10s errors.
Couldn't believe that Rose taken off after making excellent move through their midfield, also that we then had three blokes behind the resultant free kick and no-one in the box. Goal was good, so [sarcasm] the obvious thing is take the scorer off [/sarcasm]. Since when have we been a side to defend a shallow (or even a huge) lead ?
Personally (unpaid, unwelcome opinion) my sub would have been Fredericks for Siggurdson, but moving Walker behind the attack with fresh legs belting down the wing behind/with Lennon. Unorthodox, but play to your strengths.
Central defence was diffy, and we repeatedly fail to get our heads to the high ball in. Passing got worse, heavy 'incisive' passes a feature of this match to continue the recent past.
And lastly, I HATE having to view a Spurs bench full of masticators, especially with mouths open - it's disgusting, you pigs!!!!!. It only stopped when the all became 'tight-lipped, ashen-faced, Ron Knee' impersonators in the last 10 mins (Private Eyes passim). Rabbits in the headlights might be a more familiar phrase.
Shape up or ship out !!!.
Interesting starting line-up, and early performance was fairly good. Observation that Ade was back defending at some points, and earliest attempts at goal were 'hack & slay' variety rather than pass into the net type. Lennon very good, Walker largely holding back just in case. Cannot believe our crap corners to their rather trustworthy keeper, why was Andros not taking outswinging corners on the left ??.
Later in 1st half we were slowing up and getting pushed back, although the weather might have been playing a part as both sides started a sequence of U-10s errors.
Couldn't believe that Rose taken off after making excellent move through their midfield, also that we then had three blokes behind the resultant free kick and no-one in the box. Goal was good, so [sarcasm] the obvious thing is take the scorer off [/sarcasm]. Since when have we been a side to defend a shallow (or even a huge) lead ?
Personally (unpaid, unwelcome opinion) my sub would have been Fredericks for Siggurdson, but moving Walker behind the attack with fresh legs belting down the wing behind/with Lennon. Unorthodox, but play to your strengths.
Central defence was diffy, and we repeatedly fail to get our heads to the high ball in. Passing got worse, heavy 'incisive' passes a feature of this match to continue the recent past.
And lastly, I HATE having to view a Spurs bench full of masticators, especially with mouths open - it's disgusting, you pigs!!!!!. It only stopped when the all became 'tight-lipped, ashen-faced, Ron Knee' impersonators in the last 10 mins (Private Eyes passim). Rabbits in the headlights might be a more familiar phrase.
Shape up or ship out !!!.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Down with this sort of thing.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
A fair analysis. Rose and Ade were both a welcome return. To those who hate Sherwood, and give the Ade sub as Sherwoods fault, would AVB have even played Ade tonight?