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**Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**

By the way, I don't actually see what Luiz did wrong. He was smiling a good minute before the card came out. he was smiling that he was able to sucker rafael in to doing something stupid. he could've been smiling at the utd fans along the boundary giving him brick. there is nothing wrong with what he did and the massive overreaction that has come with it is ridiculous. luiz knew that he'd gotten to rafael, hence the smile.
 
Mumorn said:
By the way, I don't actually see what Luiz did wrong. He was smiling a good minute before the card came out. he was smiling that he was able to sucker rafael in to doing something stupid. he could've been smiling at the utd fans along the boundary giving him brick. there is nothing wrong with what he did and the massive overreaction that has come with it is ridiculous. luiz knew that he'd gotten to rafael, hence the smile.
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I agree with this and I'm sure they're still mates off the pitch.
 
What would the best result be for us for the Sunderland v Stoke match today? I am thinking a draw as that result will put Stoke into a relative safety.
 
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