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Official - Holtby

It was one game against a **** poor Saudi Sportswashing Machine side lets not get ahead of ourselves (again).

I'm taking a cautious approach with Bentaleb as the list for players who burst on the scene and flopped is massive compared to the successful players.

I would have said that your about him have been more negative than cautious.
 
Interesting that Holtby was not a first team choice for Fulham's game against Chelsea. The new German manager apparently preferred Parker and Dempsey for this particular game.

Purely tactical or a realistic assessment of their relative merits?
 
Not exactly unexpected though:

Raphael Honigstein at The Guardian summed up Felix Magath in a 2012 column: "Bundesliga unites in its distaste for Felix Magath's acts of unkindness."

Now a Schalke player, Holtby was given a taste of this unkindness by being left on the bench three weeks running after a lackluster performance against Nuremberg, a team he once destroyed.

Magath didn't trust Holtby and he was loaned out to Bochum where he became a handyman plugging holes in the frontline.

He even played in the engine room alongside Christoph Dabrowski in a 4-4-1-1 during a 0-0 draw against Mainz.

The next season, Holtby's dwindling transfer stock didn't just recover but rocketed skywards on loan at Mainz where he, Andre Schurrle and Adam Szalai (the Bruchweg Boys) injected excitement into a team led by Thomas Tuchel.

Holtby thrived under Tuchel, a young, inexperienced, open-minded and cordial manager, who enabled the youngster freedom.

Holtby was so impressive that he made his senior international debut for Germany, putting an end to speculation that he could represent England, the country of his Liverpudlian father.

When Holtby returned to Schalke, that freedom was gone.

Then Schalke manager Huub Stevens wanted a front four of Jefferson Farfan on the right, Raul as a deep-lying forward, the prodigious Julian Draxler on the left and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar as the No. 9.

Holtby had two choices: put in a transfer request or turn himself into a defensive midfielder.

He chose the latter option, pairing up with Jermaine Jones to average a combined 13.1 possessions won back per league game.

Holtby was great statistically but if you judged him subjectively, the main criticism was his positional indiscipline.

"Lewis [Holtby] needs to be more present and to grow into the chief's role," Stevens said, via Clark Whitney at Goal.com.

Unsurprisingly, Holtby moved back into the No. 10 role the following season and his vacancy in the pivot was filled by the tough tackling Roman Neustadter, signed on a free transfer from Monchengladbach.


www.bleacherreport.com/articles/1792393-will-toeing-the-line-lead-to-lewis-holtbys-tottenham-demise
 
Interesting that Holtby was not a first team choice for Fulham's game against Chelsea. The new German manager apparently preferred Parker and Dempsey for this particular game.

Purely tactical or a realistic assessment of their relative merits?

Parker has been nothing short of dreadful when I have seen him play this season. He faded badly in his last season with us but the decline has not stopped there, IMO. If Fulham's new new manager thinks that Parker is going to do anything at all for Fulham's season then they are are as good as down already. They need to win a few matches and should be using Holtby as an attacking fulcrum.
 
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Don't know what you've got till it's gone. Great pass and move player, but seems he was the only one in our team as to do that, not on the same wave length as the others. No way I'd be selling him.
 
Don't know what you've got till it's gone. Great pass and move player, but seems he was the only one in our team as to do that, not on the same wave length as the others. No way I'd be selling him.

I've been a big fan of his for a long time so maybe you didn't know what we had, but I was gutted when he moved.
 
The best seat he could get was right in the corner?
I wondered if it was one of the East Stand boxes but it looks like that dodgy section of the North Lower.
Just above it is Block A in the upper East is the worst place I have sat at WHL - you actually don't face the pitch but the lower tier of the North Stand.
 
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