New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

[fernadez]

Hayes is the most knowledgeable pundit I've ever heard. She actually breaks down the game tactically rather than meaningless cliches.

I wouldn't be against it

 

[Gutter Boy]

The reception would have different if he wasn't Gullit though.
If he was African instead of Dutch.
Or a mid level player instead of an absolute baller.
Or hadn't shown he has an edge - with his skill and his spitting.

He was a harder target than someone like, say, Rosenior.
Also, in the eyes of the ignorant, he wasn't "black" unless they needed him to be. Lighter skin tone.

That was 30 years ago too - youd hope things have improved.

Hayes is also arguably the best manager in the game (maybe europe, the us is perhaps ahead). So we'd hardly be appointing a nobody

 

[Grays_1890]

That was 30 years ago too - youd hope things have improved.

Hayes is also arguably the best manager in the game (maybe europe, the us is perhaps ahead). So we'd hardly be appointing a nobody

You have been spitting your dummy out at the prospect of a manager from in your view a lesser league but yet leading people to believe the sport and our fans would be ready for a female manager. I would love us to be the team that break boundaries but based on the general level of entitlement and bed wetting from fans I just would not trust us or the wider sport with that honour. As sad as that sounds

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

Considering where we are as a club e.g. we are not going anywhere fast, I would be more than happy to appoint Hayes.

 

[Baleforce]

You have been spitting your dummy out at the prospect of a manager from in your view a lesser league but yet leading people to believe the sport and our fans would be ready for a female manager. I would love us to be the team that break boundaries but based on the general level of entitlement and bed wetting from fans I just would not trust us or the wider sport with that honour. As sad as that sounds

it and we bloody well should be

 

[billyiddo]

Why?, not saying we should hire her but should consider her. No idea how a female coach would go down but it's only a matter of time.

First and only time it will happen will be when some attention seeking chairman wants to make a splash, it'll go terribly and no one will ever do it again

 

[Grays_1890]

it and we bloody well should be

I fully agree, unfortunately, in my experience, we ain't

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

The highest level a woman manager is in the man’s game is Step 7 of non league football, yet some of you think we should be employing Hayes? Surely a job a bit further down the league system to 9th best team in England (at worst) would be sensible? Basically positive discrimination if she were to get our gig.

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

The highest level a woman manager is in the man’s game is Step 7 of non league football, yet some of you think we should be employing Hayes? Surely a job a bit further down the league system to 9th best team in England (at worst) would be sensible? Basically positive discrimination if she were to get our gig.

There is every chance imo she is the same level as Ange, Potter, Silva etc who are the managers we can get at our level atm.

Therefore Hayes is a good shout.

Basically we are hoping that one of the above is a RDZ, Slot type that can have an almost immediate transformational impact. Every chance Hayes is that as much as Ange, Potter or Silva.

 

[Baleforce]

First and only time it will happen will be when some attention seeking chairman wants to make a splash, it'll go terribly and no one will ever do it again

The highest level a woman manager is in the man’s game is Step 7 of non league football, yet some of you think we should be employing Hayes? Surely a job a bit further down the league system to 9th best team in England (at worst) would be sensible? Basically positive discrimination if she were to get our gig.

There is no logical reason why biological sex is relevant to competency in a management position.

 

[Grays_1890]

There is no logical reason why biological sex is relevant to competency in a management position.

100% agree but neither is people sexuality and the fact people can't be themselves probably shows where the game is. We have some pretty embarrassing take today likening the job people have done in less fashionable leagues to running a corner shop, add to that they level of frothing at the mouth on who people want as manager I just don't think she would stand a chance and unfortunately her sex would be used as a tool, I hope I am wrong about that

 

[billyiddo]

There is no logical reason why biological sex is relevant to competency in a management position.

Agreed, but the standard of womens football is so poor there's absoloutely no reason to even think about appointing a person whose only experience is at that level. Might as well appoint a successful non league or youth team manager.

No problem with appointing a female manager but to do so.they'd need as much relevant experience in the mens game as any male candidate would.

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

Agreed, but the standard of womens football is so poor there's absoloutely no reason to even think about appointing a person whose only experience is at that level. Might as well appoint a successful non league or youth team manager.

No problem with appointing a female manager but to do so.they'd need as much relevant experience in the mens game as any male candidate would.

Well we are going nowhere and the best we can do is Ange and the like so why not Hayes who might well be on another level to the male managers we can get.

I know some on here are wildly delusional about this club primarily because they want to give Levy a blowjob but the reality is we are doing nothing so what have we got to lose.

 

[afsoc4life]

He was not the first black manager though and he also had a HUGE profile within the mens game to a point that no one blinked an eyelid.

Its not really the same as being the first male team in football to appoint a woman manager, football would have a field day as would our own fans based on recent uproars unfortunately.

It will happen and I would love us to be the ones to break the barrier, I just don't trust the industry to have the same sentiments and support for it to work, Include fans and our own in that sadly

We wouldn't be the first. IIRC Clermont in France appointed a female manager.

 

[metalgear]

Whoever but quickly please. It's not like we don't have enough practice hiring coaches already.

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[Yiddo]

A female manager just wouldn’t work, she would not gain the respect she needed. We have a multi cultural squad, some of which may still believe that a male being bossed by a female is not right.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

Agreed, but the standard of womens football is so poor there's absoloutely no reason to even think about appointing a person whose only experience is at that level. Might as well appoint a successful non league or youth team manager.

No problem with appointing a female manager but to do so.they'd need as much relevant experience in the mens game as any male candidate would.

Exactly, it really shouldn’t need spelling out.

 

[Grays_1890]

We wouldn't be the first. IIRC Clermont in France appointed a female manager.

And there was one in Italy years before but not the same scale and the lack of female managers following prove it was not the boundary breaker it probably should have been.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Appointing a woman coach is absolutely not an issue today, or it shouldn't be. We have women chairmen in this league, who sign the players' cheques - half our board are women, although they seem to be as spectacularly incompetent as Deadweight Dan himself. Any player who's happy being paid by a woman but not coached by one has a screw loose.

The issue, as @billyiddo and others have pointed out, is that women's football is roughly Conference League level at this stage in time. Just the way it is, because of the relatively late blossoming of the women's game and the yawning gap in quality as a result. So, would you be happy appointing a Conference League manager?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Appointing a woman coach is absolutely not an issue today, or it shouldn't be. We have women chairmen in this league, who sign the players' cheques - half our board are women, although they seem to be as spectacularly incompetent as Deadweight Dan himself. Any player who's happy being paid by a woman but not coached by one has a screw loose.

The issue, as @billyiddo and others have pointed out, is that women's football is roughly Conference League level at this stage in time. Just the way it is, because of the relatively late blossoming of the women's game and the yawning gap in quality as a result. So, would you be happy appointing a Conference League manager?

But in the womens game the calibre of the players isn’t deveined by the manager or coach . It’s purely the maturity of the game
Being the best at the highest level in the game you compete in is all you can do
She has done that