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Modric - No Longer A Spurs Player

The Moonlit Knight said:
Totally this. Whether some people want to acknowledge it or not Modric will be driving this as much as anyone. IF Modric really wanted to stay, then he'd just tell his agent to shut the fudge up wouldn't he?
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I don't disagree that the player wants to win a CL medal and fast, but to suggest that Luka Modric would tell Mamic to "shut the fudge up" is nowhere near a reasonable assumption. Have you read about their relationship? He's like an Uncle to Modric, and an uncle he likes at that...
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
I've already given that answer several times.

And I should clarify by first mention of the Manager, I mean his Agent. As for Redknapp? He is interwined with this. Many people blamed him for last Summer's fiasco and yet here we are again, with it happening again.
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Indulge me and consider offering it again. I genuinely don't remember you ever addressing that specific point.
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
I've already given that answer several times.

And I should clarify by first mention of the Manager, I mean his Agent. As for Redknapp? He is interwined with this. Many people blamed him for last Summer's fiasco and yet here we are again, with it happening again.
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Sorry TMK, but I have not seen your answer (now or in previous posts) regarding Redknapp and last summer; i.e. saying one minute 'we need to keep Modric and not sell our best players' to the next minute AFTER Levy has stood firm then saying in the last week the exact opposite and how 'he understands why he wants to leave for the money etc'

I'm genuinely interested in why you think Redknapp did this
 
thfcsteff said:
I don't disagree that the player wants to win a CL medal and fast, but to suggest that Luka Modric would tell Mamic to "shut the fudge up" is nowhere near a reasonable assumption. Have you read about their relationship? He's like an Uncle to Modric, and an uncle he likes at that...
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Again, who cares? It means nothing. Almost everyone will listen to family, friends, wives, kids etc before making a decision.

If Modric didn't want to leave Spurs, then he wouldn't leave Spurs. He wants to leave Spurs. He is is driving the move.
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
Or maybe after failing to qualify for the CL, Modric tells his agent that he wants to play for a CL club and to find him one.

The whole premise that Modric is some meek little boy who is easily influenced is unbelievable. It's deja vu of the Campbell saga. I remember back then people were saying Campbell didn't want to leave and it was his agent persuading him to do it. It was utter gonads and we are faced with the same situation now. People are in denial that a fan favourite really couldn't give a brick about the club and wants to move on.
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First off, the Luka Modric situation has NOTHING in common with the Sol Campbell situation. Stop preying on the relative youth of this board my good man, we BOTH know they were VASTLY different situations

Secondly, can I humbly suggest that you stop presuming on behalf of others what they never seem to say?
 
glorygloryeze said:
Sorry TMK, but I have not seen your answer (now or in previous posts) regarding Redknapp and last summer; i.e. saying one minute 'we need to keep Modric and not sell our best players' to the next minute AFTER Levy has stood firm then saying in the last week the exact opposite and how 'he understands why he wants to leave for the money etc'

I'm genuinely interested in why you think Redknapp did this
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Because Redknapp engages mouth before brain and always has done. But I also believe, whether he meant it or not, it was a very clever ploy playing good cop/bad cop between him and Levy. Levy refuses to sell Modric, but that gives the Manager a massive problem. So the best thing for the Manager to do is side with the player and make out he is acting in the player's best wishes. That way when the player isn't sold, he won't blame the Manager and still play for him.

AVB should do the same thing if Levy plays hard ball again. If AVB wants Modric on his side, then AVB should be very publically sympathetic to Modric's cause.
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
Again, who cares? It means nothing. Almost everyone will listen to family, friends, wives, kids etc before making a decision.

If Modric didn't want to leave Spurs, then he wouldn't leave Spurs. He wants to leave Spurs. He is is driving the move.
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He is a co-pilot. He is not "the" driver. They all started working on him in December 2010. Frankly, at this point, I'd sell him. It's broken. Let AVB get his replacement/whoever in and be done with it. So this isn't about anyone not being able to "let go" or anything like that. It's about the specifics of the situation.
 
I can't remember anyone claiming Modric wants to stay, but the instigator behind his original desire to move on would be his agent IMO. He signed an extension in 2010 where this gentleman's agreement stems from. I would be truly shocked if Mamic hadn't planned all along that he would move Modric on if/when he became a star at Spurs.
 
thfcsteff said:
First off, the Luka Modric situation has NOTHING in common with the Sol Campbell situation. Stop preying on the relative youth of this board my good man, we BOTH know they were VASTLY different situations

Secondly, can I humbly suggest that you stop presuming on behalf of others what they never seem to say?
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Were you on messageboards during the Campbell saga? I was and there were a LOT of posters claiming that Campbell was being manipulated by his "evil" agent.

And of course people are in denial. A lot of people always are, especially when it comes to emotional topics. They can't seperate the emotion from a fact, and they are easy to spot because they are the ones who refuse to ever be critical of their favourite even if they have a bad match.
 
billyiddo said:
lol no one blamed Redknapp - they were just tinkled off with his constant talking to the media - one minute saying he wanted Modric to stay next minute saying he could do with the extra transfer money he'd get from selling him and the next challenging the chairman to stick to his guns
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Exactly! MLK thinks we all have memories like goldfish it seems.

Harry made the situation much more difficult and dragged it thru the media much more than it needed to be. NOONE suggested anything other than that!
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
Because Redknapp engages mouth before brain and always has done. But I also believe, whether he meant it or not, it was a very clever ploy playing good cop/bad cop between him and Levy. Levy refuses to sell Modric, but that gives the Manager a massive problem. So the best thing for the Manager to do is side with the player and make out he is acting in the player's best wishes. That way when the player isn't sold, he won't blame the Manager and still play for him.

AVB should do the same thing if Levy plays hard ball again. If AVB wants Modric on his side, then AVB should be very publically sympathetic to Modric's cause.
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Very possible, yes. Thing is, he didn't have to. Modric and Redknapp always got on extremely well. He effectively ended up hanging the first two games of the season on Modric. Not the behavior of a pal IMHO...
 
Everyone here knows that Luka wants to go, regardless of what his agent is telling him. Yet again TMK is derailing a thread, it's like some guy telling a load of wrestling fans that wrestling is fake whilst strangely taking some amusement from it.
 
Jordinho said:
I can't remember anyone claiming Modric wants to stay, but the instigator behind his original desire to move on would be his agent IMO. He signed an extension in 2010 where this gentleman's agreement stems from. I would be truly shocked if Mamic hadn't planned all along that he would move Modric on if/when he became a star at Spurs.
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Based on what? And if this gentleman agreement exists, then it's clear that Modric already had ideas of using us a stepping stone. And you can't really blame him to be honest. I have no problem with Modric wanting to move to a bigger club, it's the way he went about it last Summer and now again this Summer that is the reason I've never cheered him since when his name is called out over the tannoy.
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
Were you on messageboards during the Campbell saga? I was and there were a LOT of posters claiming that Campbell was being manipulated by his "evil" agent.

And of course people are in denial. A lot of people always are, especially when it comes to emotional topics. They can't seperate the emotion from a fact, and they are easy to spot because they are the ones who refuse to ever be critical of their favourite even if they have a bad match.
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Sadly I was on 'some' message boards, doubtless arguing away there too LOL...Campbell's agent, Sky Andrew, is not the greatest bastion of principle. Where Campbell differs for me, is that he came out and made very clear insinuations that he loved Spurs, not to worry, etc, etc...
 
The Moonlit Knight said:
Because Redknapp engages mouth before brain and always has done. But I also believe, whether he meant it or not, it was a very clever ploy playing good cop/bad cop between him and Levy. Levy refuses to sell Modric, but that gives the Manager a massive problem. So the best thing for the Manager to do is side with the player and make out he is acting in the player's best wishes. That way when the player isn't sold, he won't blame the Manager and still play for him.

AVB should do the same thing if Levy plays hard ball again. If AVB wants Modric on his side, then AVB should be very publically sympathetic to Modric's cause.
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Hmmm...I'm struggling to think of other times a manager plays the 'good cop' role in this situation for a top club. Can't imagine Fergie, Wenger or others taking on this 'role'.
Can you name many more examples (because I cant)
 
Campbell's agent was and is an evil **** regardless of what impact he had on the Campbell situation.
 
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