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Mitt Romney the next new leader of the free world!!!

Not the presidential election but Americans also vote for a brickload of other stuff when they go to vote for the POTUS. Seems Colorado and Washington have voted to legalise Marijuana in their states. California seems to have stuck with the death penalty though.
 
Has Florida even been declared yet? last time i checked the tv before i left home it was 50/50. Romney only won one swing state right?

This brick is funny to me. For weeks the 'experts' on Fox were saying Romney is going to take ohio and Wisconsin and he might even take pennsylvania (yeh right). fudging tacos:ross:
 
NewYorkSpurs said:
See the page before this where I discussed, 1) that I like trolling, 2) that I didn't want to discuss why I was voting for Romney this election, nor why I voted for Obama in 2008.
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Can I guess why you like Romney?

Romney says he will cut the budget deficit by cutting taxes and closing loopholes ... but he doesn't want to discuss which ... and cutting non-defence spending by 20%, but he doesn't want to discuss what ... by converting medicare to a voucher scheme, but he doesn't want to discuss how this will reduce costs ... that he will create jobs, but he doesn't want to discuss how ... that he will get tough on China and Iran ... but he doesn't want to discuss why this will be more successful than getting tough on Cuba for the last 50 years ...

Kindred spirits?
 
markysimmo said:
Flicked on Sky News

93% of Black voters went for Obama
73% of Latino voters went for Obama
71% of Asian voters went for Obama

Didnt see the %'age of white voters
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I heard someone saying Romney led among white males by 20% (to be expected) and by 10% among white women (silly cows).

I also saw an analysis of recent votes by whites for the Democrats. It's been are a bit below or above 40% for several decades, with the highest being 43%, once by Obama last time and once in one of the Clinton years.
 
Kingdawson said:
He's not nowhere near as departed as Bush which made him far more dangerous. Say what you want a about Bush but he was a simpleton that genuinely believed what he was saying was true and the right thing to do. Romney on the other hand is cunning, deceitful and knows exactly what he's doing. Thank fudge he didn't become president.
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Agree with this. Bush was a functional idiot. He wasn't actually stupid but had worked on maintaining that state by cutting himself off from new information. He was also probably a dry drunk with a tendency for extreme behaviour (link). In contrast, Romney is intelligent and knows what he is doing. Mass Mitt, Teapot Mitt, and the Mitt of the last few weeks were just him cynically telling people what they wanted to hear. He could have been an effective President but you just don't know which Mitt would turn up. My guess he would have stayed in teapot mode to ensure reelection.

Hootnow said:
The USA is a changing country. In some ways, this was an election between the old US and a new one. The right wingers are terrified of this future.

And I'm genuinely loving fox news at the moment. They now have an expert talking about electoral fraud, members of the Black Panthers intimidating Republicans outside polling booths and getting in some preliminary moaning about the electoral college vs popular vote. Didn't care in 2000 did they!!
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I'd say the US has always being a changing country and both parties have changed substantially over the last three decades. A changing country needs progressive politics, either of the left or right. The republican party in Reagan's time was focused on the more libertarian west, including all the west coast states that are now solidly Democrat. These were progressive Republicans. The reactionary conservatives of the south were part of the Democrat constituency. Since then these reactionaries have taken over the Republican party. Obama was on the money when he said Romney's stated positions were going back to the foreign policy of the 80s, the economic policy of the 20s and social policy of the 50s, although Obama meant the 1950s while many of the teapots would prefer the 1850s.

How the Republicans will respond will be interesting. The Fox news melt down suggests that they will continue the denial theme for a few more years. They didn't fail because their policies were wrong but because they were not reactionary enough. If they fail badly in 2016 we might see a new republicanism emerge, but the danger is that with continued stagnation in the economy they could win with someone like Paul Ryan and his tooth-fairy economics.
 
Kingdawson said:
It's brilliant isn't it. Was watching it earlier and they really couldn't hide their huge dissapointment which was beautiful to see.
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Indeed, literally tripping over themselves to contain their disappointment...

The worst was seeing that disgusting corporate pig Karl Rove trying to do the biding of his paymasters and convince the watching world that no, Ohio wasn't over and that it was all called too early...of course I'd never be surprised to find out he and his minnions have conceived a way to call for a recount there...
 
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I love this map......shows there aren't 'Red States' although Arkansas is 100% red.

Every city over 300,000 in the US votes Democrat
 
Leeds Spur said:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-florida-state-race

Interesting to look at the county stats here..........even places like Georgia in the deep south have very solid Democrat areas.

Dekalb and Fulton Counties.....Metro Atlanta, are 70% Democrat!
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In many respects the US echos the UK pattern. Democrats/Labour dominate the urban areas and Republicans/Conservatives the rural areas. The more detailed maps show that even in the red states you can see a chain of democrat towns and cities through the cotton/slave belt in the deep south and further north in the industrial/coal belt going south west from Ohio/Eastern Penn. The Democrat West is concentrated in a very thin coastal strip with a spur into silcon valley. Go inland into central California and it changes dramatically ... places like Bairstow are redneck country (this is the only place in America I felt unwelcome in 20 years and that was because of the company I was with).

There is a new trend to add, though, with Hispanics who are often in rural areas. New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado seem to have swing to the Democrats as their Hispanic population rose and they look to become reasonably safe Democrat states in future.
 
jts1882 said:
In many respects the US echos the UK pattern. Democrats/Labour dominate the urban areas and Republicans/Conservatives the rural areas. The more detailed maps show that even in the red states you can see a chain of democrat towns and cities through the cotton/slave belt in the deep south and further north in the industrial/coal belt going south west from Ohio/Eastern Penn. The Democrat West is concentrated in a very thin coastal strip with a spur into silcon valley. Go inland into central California and it changes dramatically ... places like Bairstow are redneck country (this is the only place in America I felt unwelcome in 20 years and that was because of the company I was with).

There is a new trend to add, though, with Hispanics who are often in rural areas. New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado seem to have swing to the Democrats as their Hispanic population rose and they look to become reasonably safe Democrat states in future.
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I was surprised that even in Mississippi there was loads of Blue counties along the banks of the river.

In the UK it's not quite as cut and dry though.

Most of the suburbs of the larges towns and cities are Tory......not even rural areas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2010

In the 2010 election the Tories got 2 million more votes overall that Labour....wheras its basically a tie on the popular vote this time in the US.
 
jts1882 said:
In many respects the US echos the UK pattern. Democrats/Labour dominate the urban areas and Republicans/Conservatives the rural areas. The more detailed maps show that even in the red states you can see a chain of democrat towns and cities through the cotton/slave belt in the deep south and further north in the industrial/coal belt going south west from Ohio/Eastern Penn. The Democrat West is concentrated in a very thin coastal strip with a spur into silcon valley. Go inland into central California and it changes dramatically ... places like Bairstow are redneck country (this is the only place in America I felt unwelcome in 20 years and that was because of the company I was with).

There is a new trend to add, though, with Hispanics who are often in rural areas. New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado seem to have swing to the Democrats as their Hispanic population rose and they look to become reasonably safe Democrat states in future.
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I think Colorado, Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Florida and other states with high Latino populations are going to be blue for a LONG time.

The republicans will need to change policies for the 99% if they have a hope in hell of winning.

If they can't beat Obama in THIS election, they're toast
 
Will be glad this is over, got people on my fb chatting brick and I get the feeling they haven't really put in the ground work to earn their opinion

"Well it's nice to know that the majority of Americans aren't complete idiots ;)"

"Theres still about 49% of the people that are though!"

"Well, I can eat my shreddies with a little bit of faith in humanity this morning."

fudge off. You know brick about politics, it's not even your country, just fudge off. Little fireflys floating about posting generic comments about whatever the buzz topic is today
 
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