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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

United won't go for Poch ... they really have two choices

- Pep/City, Klopp/Pool, Wenger/Scum, big name/Cheat$ki will be the stage

They either will go for Jose (who obviously their board opposes or they would have already)
Or the stupid ass option of Giggs the savior ...

If they do anything at all, like the Scum, their board is quite happy with the commercial side of business ..
 
Mourinho to UTD seems to be all the rage right now (makes sense too), whilst Chelsea are rumoured to be ready to approach Pellegrini and Conte. Heck I wouldn't put it past them or UTD to go for Simeone either.

Personally I can't understand Poch leaving at this stage. One you look past the prestige of taking on the UTD job and actually look at the job itself, the gloss comes off. For a start, Poch would need to revitalise parts of the squad and then get them up to speed with his pressing style, something which will not happen immediately. Old Trafford has become an increasingly hostile place and the fans want a quick fix, they want the lives that they have become accustomed to and like spoiled children that don't get what they want, they will throw a tantrum the minute they are disappointed. This season with LVG has infuriated them and this will only add to the pressure and need for a quick fix.
 
www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/feb/02/tottenham-pochettino-harry-kane-top-four-title

Tottenham fans should trust Pochettino, a manager who doesn’t need to spend
A failure to sign cover for Harry Kane has left many at White Hart Lane disappointed, but with a top-four place theirs to lose and a title shot a possibility, the Argentinian deserves some faith

Let’s start with a statistic, because it is a pretty eye-catching one. Across his four transfer windows at Tottenham Hotspur, Mauricio Pochettino is £6.3m in credit on permanent fees spent.

Daniel Levy, the chairman, is loving Pochettino right now because of how the manager has the club on course for the Champions League and, who knows, possibly the Premier League title, too, and to have done it on a shoestring makes his work even more admirable.

More than anything, Pochettino has fired a feel-good factor, having shaped a vibrant, hungry young team that can go toe-to-toe with any other in England. As the ludicrously over-blown pre-match montage at White Hart Lane reminds us, the game is about the glory and Pochettino has allowed Tottenham’s fans to dream, which, ultimately, is one of the best things about following a club.

On Monday, as the clock ticked down towards the transfer deadline, Pochettino effectively made a demand of those supporters. He asked them, once again, to trust him. With everything that they have.

The calls for him to sign an out-and-out striker in support of Harry Kane were almost hysterical last summer but there was nobody available who he liked enough and, crucially, would fit into his playing style. And so he rolled the dice.

There is a little joke in the White Hart Lane press room before matches when the line-ups are handed out: “Harry gets the nod up front.” Kane, of course, is the only established, senior option. Everybody connected to the club held their breath over the first-half of the season and, happily, Kane stayed the course and he delivered. The 22-year-old has lacerated any fears that he might somehow have been a one-season wonder, after his breakthrough last time out.

Pochettino, though, rolled the dice even harder on Monday because, unlike on 1 September, the fans can now sense the glory. It is within their grasp and, frankly, a top-four finish is theirs to throw away.

With the increased expectation comes the greater fear of failure and it has crystallised around Kane who, more than ever, carries their hopes on his shoulders. It is a fair bet that Twitter would break if Kane were to suffer a serious injury and Tottenham missed out on the Champions League. Could you imagine?

Pochettino said before last summer’s transfer deadline that he wanted proper cover for Kane and he used a line that got a smile. “It’s like when you are in love with a lady – there are a lot of women around the world but you want only one,” he said. At the time, he wanted Saido Berahino from West Bromwich Albion but Levy could not agree the deal.

On 3 December, Pochettino again said that the club were tracking strikers ahead of the winter window and he also accepted that none of his back-up options – Son Heung-min, Nacer Chadli and Clinton Njie – were specialists in the position. Njie has since been ruled out until April with a knee injury that required surgery.

But Pochettino, to draw on the famous old Ian Holloway analogy, has never been about to bundle any old thing into the back of a taxi when the night is done. He is not a desperate guy, even with his mates egging him on.

Levy was very keen for him to sign a striker at the last moment in the summer – he said that he could get Charlie Austin, who was then at Queens Park Rangers, only for Pochettino to say ‘No’ – and, once again in January, it was Levy who was eager to do the business.

Tottenham have scouted loads of strikers, including Jonathan Calleri, the 22-year-old Argentinian, who is now at São Paulo. The club were among those to watch Oumar Niasse extensively over the first half of the season – the Senegalese joined Everton for £13.5m on deadline day – while there was no chance of them, or indeed anyone, getting Berahino during this past window.

There was also Fulham’s Moussa Dembélé, the 19-year-old Frenchman, who passed a medical with them on Saturday, with a view to a £6m transfer with a loan-back to Craven Cottage for the remainder of the season. With the consent of the player and the framework of the deal in place, Tottenham then moved to scrap the loan-back bit, which had always been set in stone from Fulham’s side. It was a liberty, Fulham felt, and they called everything off.

Dembélé was the one that Pochettino wanted but he has lost no sleep over him or the fact that Kane’s burden feels as though it has just got heavier. Kane, lest anyone forget, is prized for his durability and stamina.

Yes, Pochettino would have liked somebody else up front but not just anybody and the chemistry within the dressing-room that he has concocted remains of over-riding importance. Nothing or nobody can come in from the outside to upset that.

If it is a thing of great delicacy, then there are plenty of people who would argue that there is a tipping point between Son and Chadli being able to do a job up front and doing it brilliantly.

Pochettino can counter by saying that the role of the No9 has changed, modern attacking tactics are much more fluid and he would back himself to find the collective solution, involving Son and/or Chadli, if the worst came to the worst and Kane were injured.

If any manager has credit in the bank and the right to expect a bit of faith to be shown in him, it is surely Pochettino.
 
if United want a quick fix, it has to be Jose

It could also be Poch: he's worked with Schneiderlin and Shaw before, they have a lot of young talent for him to work with and he can spend whatever he wants.

Either way, no biggie for us. There are 'Poch' mould managers elsewhere in the world as well, I'm sure of it. Maybe Frank De Boer. The key is that we don't get hung up over him staying or going to the point where it ruins seasons as it did in 2011/2012.
 
It could also be Poch: he's worked with Schneiderlin and Shaw before, they have a lot of young talent for him to work with and he can spend whatever he wants.

Either way, no biggie for us. There are 'Poch' mould managers elsewhere in the world as well, I'm sure of it. Maybe Frank De Boer. The key is that we don't get hung up over him staying or going to the point where it ruins seasons as it did in 2011/2012.

Important difference. Poch is not Redknapp.

Does anyone pay attention the people involved? I think everyone tends to react to this media guff as if it were them. Poch has shown he is different. Money will not be a factor. The only way this guy is leaving before the new stadium is is he feels someone at Spurs fudges him over. Otherwise he understands the mutual benefit here. He know staying with us, making us a consistent top 4 club and winning will be his passage to Barca in the not too near future. Of course nothing is certain, but that is my read on it
 
Important difference. Poch is not Redknapp.

Does anyone pay attention the people involved? I think everyone tends to react to this media guff as if it were them. Poch has shown he is different. Money will not be a factor. The only way this guy is leaving before the new stadium is is he feels someone at Spurs fudges him over. Otherwise he understands the mutual benefit here. He know staying with us, making us a consistent top 4 club and winning will be his passage to Barca in the not too near future. Of course nothing is certain, but that is my read on it

Maybe, but it isn't wise to plan our future based on the hope that Poch is a saint descended to Earth to fulfill our eternally wasted potential. It could be that he sees a long-term legacy here as his key to the Barca job: it could also be that going to United, buying some players familiar to him for 200-300 million quid instead of scraping around for six million quid for soon-to-be free agent Moussa Dembele on deadline day and instantly winning things would also get him the Barca job, with a better salary for him and more prestige to boot.

Either way, as I said, no biggie. He stays, he goes, we can replace him the way Dortmund replaced Klopp. The club, after all, is what we all love: the manager is only a staff member who is rarely interested in becoming a legend at that club, and that's only fair. Banking on that rare event happening, however, isn't wise.

(Also, if any of us were in his position, we'd never leave THFC until we were dragged out, clawing the walls and screaming furiously:, and you know that: get tae f*ck with that 'everyone tends to react to this as if it were them' stuff. :p )
 
Maybe, but it isn't wise to plan our future based on the hope that Poch is a saint descended to Earth to fulfill our eternally wasted potential. It could be that he sees a long-term legacy here as his key to the Barca job: it could also be that going to United, buying some players familiar to him for 200-300 million quid instead of scraping around for six million quid for soon-to-be free agent Moussa Dembele on deadline day and instantly winning things would also get him the Barca job, with a better salary for him and more prestige to boot.

Either way, as I said, no biggie. He stays, he goes, we can replace him the way Dortmund replaced Klopp. The club, after all, is what we all love: the manager is only a staff member who is rarely interested in becoming a legend at that club, and that's only fair. Banking on that rare event happening, however, isn't wise.

(Also, if any of us were in his position, we'd never leave THFC until we were dragged out, clawing the walls and screaming furiously:, and you know that: get tae f*ck with that 'everyone tends to react to this as if it were them' stuff. :p )
The manager is the most important component in the team, I am sure you didn't mean it mate but your post sounds a little blasé on this point. After years of coming within touching distance of the success then changing the manager, we've finally found a manager that is totally in tune with the direction of the club and one who can bring that success. So although, yes the club is the most important thing, IMO we should move heaven and earth to keep Poch.
 
Levy always does what is best for the club
Poch always does what is best for the club
Aligned thinking
I never get the feeling either are in it for themselves
 
Eh. We'll find another manager with similar characteristics if it does happen: Dortmund replacing Klopp with Tuchel has reassured me that such things can be done. We can't allow ourselves to get hung up over one manager, no matter how good he may possibly be. That way lies 'England 2012'.
Wait, you get all twisted like a pretzel that we didn't sign a backup striker who would likely sit on the bench the rest of the season, but you're "meh" about Poch leaving??? The guy who is at the core of everything we have achieved this season and has put us on the path to become an elite team? I'm speechless...
 
Wait, you get all twisted like a pretzel that we didn't sign a backup striker who would likely sit on the bench the rest of the season, but you're "meh" about Poch leaving??? The guy who is at the core of everything we have achieved this season and has put us on the path to become an elite team? I'm speechless...

I believe Poch is very important and I would do all I could to keep him, I do feel like many others on here that not signing any back up could hurt us.

I have seen you calling out a few posters now about being upset/frustrated/disappointed....regarding lack of signings

Are we allowed to be frustrated Alekaras??? its not like we are anti-fans or saying that Poch/Levy have no clue far from it!

Either way I am proud of my team tonight, and proud of our coach and our direction...the window has closed so thats it, I do feel we are still getting ahead of ourselves in the sense that we have over a third of the season to go, and nothing yet has been achieved in the grand scheme of things.

I respect your opinions Alkeras but I dont understand why you have to keep digging a few of us out as being anti Poch just because we are frustrated at not signing back up for the cf position....we are allowed our views and it does not mean we do not rate Poch, or that we want the team to fail in order to be proved correct...far from it.

We need to be careful and just take a little step back, no one is denying Poch is not the dogs danglies at the mo but some are whipping up a GHod like status of the man...as far as I know he is a man! he is human...and just like you and me is prone to getting things wrong and making mistakes from time to time.

I get the optimism, he deserves praise, but lets all try not to ejaculacion prematurium, WE NEED to retain our focus our hunger!...We need a bit of luck...and like all teams trying for top honours we need to steer clear of injuries.

Poch has trials and tribulations to come...We have a long way to go.
 
Still though, we should be thankful and look to be keeping Poch. This is the first time in a while that I have felt this much confidence in a Spurs team and he is a big part of it.
 
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