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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

I agree...but ah wait Milo has just said what I wanted to say only better.

Dynasty is a strong word...there are plenty of managers who have left clubs in a better state squad wise from what they inherited in the beginning...I suppose in a way you could argue that Pearson may have started a dynasty at Leicester...or that strange man down the road who struggles to unzip his jacket, like's throwing water bottles around and loses his sight when his players commit acts off atrocities.

Fergie was the best, Mourinho has proved he cant hack it at one club for too long, many managers get the bullet by impatient fans/Chairman's to be given a chance at building dynasties...or they are tempted away by a bigger fish.

In days of social media...radio phone in football shows, an army of expert pundits scrutinising every move and getting well paid for it!! will a manager ever get a chance to build a dynasty??? no more likely a Chairman. Levy has his faults and has made mistakes but has taken us a long way.

Which boils down to we just all enjoy what's occuring at our club at the moment, Poch is the bees knees...everyone is happy, but this is football and the landscape can change very quickly with a few bad results.

Enjoy the ride and hope Poch continues to improve us as he has undeniably done thus far, If he does and our young players develop into what I think they can then I think were in for very good times indeed...but in football nothing can be taken for granted, I will give it a few years and prayers yet before I post off my MOPO statue designs to Mr Levy.
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I agree that it is too early to definitively say that a dynasty has been created. The fickle nature of modern day football almost precludes that to happen, but I base my opinion on all of the things that Poch has done to change the mentality and ethos of the club. We have a set style of play. It doesn't change, even if personnel changes.

for the first time that I can remember, we have a "style" of player that we are looking for. Energetic, young, adaptable and technically proficient. Before, our transfer approach predominently focused on resale value, but we also got players who didn't tick all of the boxes. So players like Pav, Dalmat, Zakora, Edman, Atouba.

But, the crucial difference for me is that Poch is changing the attitude of our players and the club. He's creating an identity. No arrogance, learn, hard work, don't complain. That is different to AVB, Ramos, Jol, Redknapp, Sherwood, Santini, Gross. Poch is conducting himself in a very positive way and that is being shown in our players. The difference between him and say Mourinho, is that Mourinho made everything about him or an attack on the club.

I'm probably not explaining myself very well, but I really do believe that Poch is different to almost every other manager in the league. We've had our fair share of managers over the years, and Poch is the only one where it's not about him. It's about the club.
 
Everything is looking good for now let's hope things keep that way. But it won't. The mega player deals are one sure way to change things at any club dramatically. Look at Hazard at Chelsea.

Being in the champions league consistently will bring some semblance of desirability to players, and more stability.
 
Re Levy being about money: yes he is. He's all about not bankrupting the club to satisfy the whims of every manager.

Re Poch: one of the reasons he's achieving what he has so far is his personality. He's tough, but at the same time a real humble and likeable guy. That's a rare combination.
 
Everything is looking good for now let's hope things keep that way. But it won't. The mega player deals are one sure way to change things at any club dramatically. Look at Hazard at Chelsea.

Being in the champions league consistently will bring some semblance of desirability to players, and more stability.


One of the things which has made me happiest in the last 18 months is out move away from those. I think what CL football will achieve is the ability to wage-up the players we have to make sure they stick around for the fulfillment of what they (as a unit) are building. Poch has engrained collective responsibility in the club, their jobs and their work together. I think having such positive working conditions will absolutely be the swing factor in any proposal, providing the club is moving forwards. Which we are. So I think we can look forward to at least three years stability if things continue as they are. In fact, the potential parallels with Fergie's Man Utd era of Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, etc is not just idle, it is the closest we have potentially seen in British football since. Let's hope it continues.
 
Love what he has brought to the club since his appointment. Its a general feel good factor that we haven't felt really since the 10/11 season and to a degree, the season after, 11/12.

I thought we were quite poor to watch last season but still felt like it didn't matter as it was part of a bigger plan, the start of road to somewhere a bit more fulfilling than in recent times. That has been borne out this season for me, the progression is clear. I think that with a little tweaking and 2-3 signings in the summer will make us better next season than this which seems on paper to be hard to top at this point.

I think the players all feel happy with eachother and understand that it is all about the result and the end goal, even if it means that you aren't playing. No murmurs of discontent, just players getting on with it and playing with a smile on their faces. Glad to see it and hopefully it will remain that way for a while to come.
 
Really? Scandalous? Really?

Do you really think football is all about bringing a guy in who's won trophies somewhere else and expecting it to translate here? I think that approach is doomed to failure, because it's all about making the right appointment for the club, based on the circumstances we have to give them.

We need attacking, fast paced football otherwise the home atmosphere turns toxic. Poch provides this. We need him to demonstrate an ability to work with what he has and bring players up a level. His work with Southampton shows he can do this. We need him to trust in the youth players that we have coming through. Poch has proven he does this.

All of this, combined with the fact that he plays a modern brand of football entirely in keeping with the trends of the modern game, suggests to me that he's the perfect fit. I can't see a negative right now to be honest. I think it's a fantastic appointment.

Well done mister.

EDIT: Quote didn't date stamp. That was from 2014.
 
I can see why Poch put out a strong team yesterday (much to the dismay of some). By playing players like Kane and naming a strong bench, he may be making a statement that no player is too big and that we take all games seriously. Yep I wanted to see the young(er) players too but I can see why he did it (assumption).
 
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Really? Can you give me an example of a time when he has put money over the interests of the club?

Well, I really think Levy could have stopped the likes of Carrick, Berbatov and Bale from leaving if he really wanted to. Instead, he accepted a huge fee as compensation and let us suffer huge setback as a result. I think top quality players will always give their best even if they are forced to stay against their will. Just look at De Gea(ManU) and Gerrard(Liverpool).
 
Well, I really think Levy could have stopped the likes of Carrick, Berbatov and Bale from leaving if he really wanted to. Instead, he accepted a huge fee as compensation and let us suffer huge setback as a result. I think top quality players will always give their best even if they are forced to stay against their will. Just look at De Gea(ManU) and Gerrard(Liverpool).

What do you think it would've taken to get those players to reject possibly their only chance to join one of the biggest clubs in the world?
 
I agree that it is too early to definitively say that a dynasty has been created. The fickle nature of modern day football almost precludes that to happen, but I base my opinion on all of the things that Poch has done to change the mentality and ethos of the club. We have a set style of play. It doesn't change, even if personnel changes.

for the first time that I can remember, we have a "style" of player that we are looking for. Energetic, young, adaptable and technically proficient. Before, our transfer approach predominently focused on resale value, but we also got players who didn't tick all of the boxes. So players like Pav, Dalmat, Zakora, Edman, Atouba.

But, the crucial difference for me is that Poch is changing the attitude of our players and the club. He's creating an identity. No arrogance, learn, hard work, don't complain. That is different to AVB, Ramos, Jol, Redknapp, Sherwood, Santini, Gross. Poch is conducting himself in a very positive way and that is being shown in our players. The difference between him and say Mourinho, is that Mourinho made everything about him or an attack on the club.

I'm probably not explaining myself very well, but I really do believe that Poch is different to almost every other manager in the league. We've had our fair share of managers over the years, and Poch is the only one where it's not about him. It's about the club.[/QUOTE]

I cant disagree with any of this, I feel exactly the same way about Poch.

On the evidence you have given I would like Poch to stay for a very long time...Its just a gentle reminder, a reminder that although he has taken us to a final, we have not won anything under him yet, and that is not a complaint thus far as we have made enormous strides in the 1 and a half years he has been at the helm. I love the direction we are going.

Massive changes have been made for the better but still a long way to go, lets see how far we can go in certain situations, lets see how we fare with the run in and whether we can keep within touching distance of top spot, lets see if Poch can realise the potential of these young players and make them winners.

I dont want to kill any excitement or blow up the bandwagon, I just want us to remain driven and focused and achieve something out of this season, call me Mr Greedypants if you like but I would like a Trophy, I feel we can be more than just a top 4 finish, I see no reason to fear any of our rivals. I know Poch is nice, but now we are getting to the nitty gritty I wish to see some nastiness and clinical actions from our lads.

I have no issues with Poch, but I do feel we have to see how this season pans out. I am pleased we are in a very good place.

You may remember some of the posts on here during the reign of AVB...such as ' I no longer care about watching spurs' 'Spurs bore me to death' I dont care about any of our players'

Well now its the opposite, I love watching us play and I care enormously about our young players, but lets enjoy the ride and see how we feel once all the major honours have been handed out, I worry we may fall short and our players are not quite there yet, may need more time to realise potential and will be hard to keep them together.

Either way, amazing post as always Gazza's booties.
 
I like everything about how Pochettino has gone about building his managerial career. He's seen the game as a player from certain perspectives that make him uniquely equipped to grasp what Spurs are all about, what they could be, and what an important role he could have in making that happen. When you look at his playing career and what he has coped with, you can't help but get a sense that he has a persistence and doggedness to his character - soul, if you will.

As a player, he never got to play for any of the major powers in football. And that includes his stint with Paris Saint-Germain, who, until recently, were among the greatest underachieving clubs in Europe. He played there in the early 2K's, during their nadir when an Intertoto Cup was the peak of their achievement and they were wallowing in debt. A stint at Bordeaux was equally undistinguished, with no trophies won.

Prior to that, his years with Newells Old Boys in Argentina included two league titles - featuring home and away wins over Boca Juniors in the '90-91 title playoff - and a gut-wrenching loss in the final of the '92 Copa Libertadores, at the Morumbi in Sao Paulo, where they had defended a first leg 1-0 lead until a penalty for the home side in the 65th minute. That sent the game to extra time and penalties, where they lost 3-2. He didn't participate in the penalties.

He also played for Espanyol for ten years, over two separate stints. Forever the lesser club in Barcelona, it takes a spine to cope with that and he was part of the 1999-2000 squad that won the Copa del Rey by 2-1 over Atletico Madrid at the Mestalla, having got there by eliminating Real Madrid by 1-0 over two legs in the semi final.

Through 17 years as a solid professional, he was good enough to play for Argentina's senor squad 20 times and play in one World Cup. Very good, but not great.

Pochettino knows what it is to be the little guy. The striver. He knows what a grind the game is, on many levels, as both a player and manager. And how sweet it can be to put it all together and win.

No doubt, there are people out there who would like to think the rustle of banknotes will be enough to spin Pochettino's head and send him on to one of the so-called bigger clubs. They saw him leave Spain (well, after saving Espanyol from relegation one year, he left in 2012 by mutual consent when they were in last place) for the brighter prospects of Southampton, then saw him repeat the process with Tottenham just two years later. But one can't compare the situation in Southampton with Spurs. One is a south coast club with fluctuating fortunes and a perceivable limit on what they can achieve. The other is a London club with a wonderful history, a huge fan base and amazing prospects for years to come.

Spurs are a club that he has the sort of personal history and experience to truly appreciate what this club is all about and what can happen here. His arrival is fortuitous since Daniel Levy - with a state-of-the-art training ground, one of Europe's greatest youth academies, and a remarkable new stadium coming out of the ground - is now in position to hand him some of the best tools and circumstances he could ever hope to work with.

I think Spurs have found their man at the exact same time as their man has found the exact place he truly belongs at.

There is money aplenty to reward him, yet there is the sense that this is a craftsman, someone who has a keen idea of what he wants to build and simply had to find the right place to make it happen.

One day, Mauricio Pochettino will truly need a bigger club to fulfill his ambitions. But if he fulfills all the ambitions he currently has now, he will create that bigger club with his own ideas, decisions and actions. What more can a man who is giving his life to football ask for?
 
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Have a moment to speak to some fans of opposing clubs, evening Gooners and Chavs. All of them rate Poch. I did this personally over the last week. They say he is class and we look solid.
 
Have a moment to speak to some fans of opposing clubs, evening Gooners and Chavs. All of them rate Poch. I did this personally over the last week. They say he is class and we look solid.

Same here, I have mates/family who are season ticket holders at Utd/City and they say the same.
 
Was listening to some Arsenal pundit/player, can't remember who exactly, saying he would love Pochettino to take over when Wenger goes "soon".
 
I like everything about how Pochettino has gone about building his managerial career. He's seen the game as a player from certain perspectives that make him uniquely equipped to grasp what Spurs are all about, what they could be, and what an important role he could have in making that happen. When you look at his playing career and what he has coped with, you can't help but get a sense that he has a persistence and doggedness to his character - soul, if you will.

As a player, he never got to play for any of the major powers in football. And that includes his stint with Paris Saint-Germain, who, until recently, were among the greatest underachieving clubs in Europe. He played there in the early 2K's, during their nadir when an Intertoto Cup was the peak of their achievement and they were wallowing in debt. A stint at Bordeaux was equally undistinguished, with no trophies won.

Prior to that, his years with Newells Old Boys in Argentina included two league titles - featuring home and away wins over Boca Juniors in the '90-91 title playoff - and a gut-wrenching loss in the final of the '92 Copa Libertadores, at the Morumbi in Sao Paulo, where they had defended a first leg 1-0 lead until a penalty for the home side in the 65th minute. That sent the game to extra time and penalties, where they lost 3-2. He didn't participate in the penalties.

He also played for Espanyol for ten years, over two separate stints. Forever the lesser club in Barcelona, it takes a spine to cope with that and he was part of the 1999-2000 squad that won the Copa del Rey by 2-1 over Atletico Madrid at the Mestalla, having got there by eliminating Real Madrid by 1-0 over two legs in the semi final.

Through 17 years as a solid professional, he was good enough to play for Argentina's senor squad 20 times and play in one World Cup. Very good, but not great.

Pochettino knows what it is to be the little guy. The striver. He knows what a grind the game is, on many levels, as both a player and manager. And how sweet it can be to put it all together and win.

No doubt, there are people out there who would like to think the rustle of banknotes will be enough to spin Pochettino's head and send him on to one of the so-called bigger clubs. They saw him leave Spain (well, after saving Espanyol from relegation one year, he left in 2012 by mutual consent when they were in last place) for the brighter prospects of Southampton, then saw him repeat the process with Tottenham just two years later. But one can't compare the situation in Southampton with Spurs. One is a south coast club with fluctuating fortunes and a perceivable limit on what they can achieve. The other is a London club with a wonderful history, a huge fan base and amazing prospects for years to come.

Spurs are a club that he has the sort of personal history and experience to truly appreciate what this club is all about and what can happen here. His arrival is fortuitous since Daniel Levy - with a state-of-the-art training ground, one of Europe's greatest youth academies, and a remarkable new stadium coming out of the ground - is now in position to hand him some of the best tools and circumstances he could ever hope to work with.

I think Spurs have found their man at the exact same time as their man has found the exact place he truly belongs at.

There is money aplenty to reward him, yet there is the sense that this is a craftsman, someone who has a keen idea of what he wants to build and simply had to find the right place to make it happen.

One day, Mauricio Pochettino will truly need a bigger club to fulfill his ambitions. But if he fulfills all the ambitions he currently has now, he will create that bigger club with his own ideas, decisions and actions. What more can a man who is giving his life to football ask for?
Good article but they omitted the bit about Nicola Cortese being axed
 
Transfer window closed = Back to the media unsettling Tottenham

:rolleyes:


Eh. We'll find another manager with similar characteristics if it does happen: Dortmund replacing Klopp with Tuchel has reassured me that such things can be done. We can't allow ourselves to get hung up over one manager, no matter how good he may possibly be. That way lies 'England 2012'.
 
Eh. We'll find another manager with similar characteristics if it does happen: Dortmund replacing Klopp with Tuchel has reassured me that such things can be done. We can't allow ourselves to get hung up over one manager, no matter how good he may possibly be. That way lies 'England 2012'.

exactly, if everything is as rosy as some of us think it is then we'll be able to slot someone else in

I wonder who Bayern are looking at it
 
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