A fair point. I'd be perfectly happy with the XI you posted. I think Poch will pick, roughly, your team.
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A fair point. I'd be perfectly happy with the XI you posted. I think Poch will pick, roughly, your team.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
The FA cup is pretty sacred to us (as Ricky in the left hand colunm <<< will remind you) BUT with my pragmatic head on, the top 4 is very doable (2-1 ON doable) and unlike other years the league match is against a direct competitor for the top 4. Leicester are slowing slightly and we could really send them into a spin if we focus on winning the league game.
We could still field a decent team like ^^Billy suggests.
And remember If we get knocked out we do get 2 free saturdays Jan/Feb inc the saturday between Fiorentina.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
No problem with that, my main objection was in answer to a post saying "going out of the FA cup in the third round wouldn't be disastrous" .
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Amen brother, all ex-pros say this on podcasts... you have to get in the habit of winning, get a good feeling in a club, set the bar really high and never forfeit anything whether it is a training game, head tennis, ping pong or the FA Cup.
Carrick couldn't believe it when he went to Utd - the training was much tougher than the league games, everyone playing for pride and for places in the team, nobody backing off... subsequently they found the league pretty easy most weeks. He said it was completely different to Spurs, where there was a much more laid back approach, saving it for the weekend.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Couldn't agree more with you.
Would not surprise me but I would say that the Utd squad that Carrick played in at that time was much bigger. I don't agree with any of our players being tired or showing signs of being "burned out". I think that's an easy/throw away comment to make as I truly believe Poch knows fitness better than any manager in the league. These are young guys, who have all had a pretty decent preseason that has prepared them for just this many games.
We are simply not good enough to put out a second string against Premiership opposition and get a result. At worst, we lose. More than likely we draw and have a replay to play! You rest a player and they're just as likely to pick up an injury in training! Better to take each game as it comes imho. The FA Cup is a competition that is what our club is about! It's a major trophy and would do no end of good for our young squad.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Much as I agree with everything you say Gazza I would really like us to have a go at winning the Europa league this season, another cup that our club has a great tradition in (when it was the UEFA cup of course). Not sure that would be possible along with an FA cup run and a top 4 challenge. Still as you say I really trust Poch to make the right call with the squad.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Well, United under Ferguson quite literally forfeited the FA cup one year, didn't they?
I think our approach in training is much changed under Mauricio "sometimes 3" Pochettino.
I don't think some rotation for some games is inconsistent with the kind of attitude you're after.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
I completely agree with you on Europa as well but respectfully don't agree that we can't fight on all fronts. I don't think that we should choose the competitions that we are going to win. As @Raziel pointed out, winning is a mentality and the only time that I would expect to see players rotated is if we're in the early rounds against teams in lower divisions, or we have a cup final to play in. And the latter would probably be dependent on whether or not we are still involved in the title race. Our kids will learn from having to fight on all fronts in any case. Poch rotates a reasonable amount anyway i.e. Trippier, Davies v Rose, Carroll coming in, Son etc.... which is why I don't think that we need to pick and choose our competitions. I also think that sometimes rotation will be forced on us i.e. injuries... so I think it is a risky business resting all of our top players for an FA Cup game or Europa to prioritise the league.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I think the point is that we can't fight on all fronts without rotating. As for winning mentality I would expect any player we put out against Leicester that isn't a regular league starter to have the right mentality to be desperate to win and prove themselves good enough.
Would you mind expanding a bit on what you mean by "top players"? I don't think many are saying that we should rest all our first choice 11 against Leicester for example.
You say that Pochettino rotates a reasonable amount anyway, but also say that you only expect to see players rotated is in the early rounds against teams in lower divisions. This seems like a contradiction to me.
You would want to see us play pretty much an unchanged "front 6" in the 3 upcoming games?
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
If that is the point, then I don't think we are currently fighting on all fronts without rotating. There are changes made each week to the team so Poch is rotating.
What I took from what has been posted previously was that there seems to be a thought that says we need more rotation than we currently have seen for the FA Cup game against Leicester i.e. to rest a majority of our first 11 for this match. I am saying that I do not agree with this as, the FA cup to me is just as important, and also I don't believe that you can just rest a lot of players without it having an effect on the team and morale within our squad. A loss against Leicester would damage the "winning mentality". Playing with a team with a lot of players who have not had a lot of game time is risky because they are not "match fit". IMHO, you can't afford to play a team with a large amount of players who are not match fit and expect to win, regardless of their desperation to win and prove themselves good enough.
My point on Poch rotating is just that. He does. Some of that is enforced due to injury or suspension, but as I said above, I think the discussion is that there should be more rotation for the FA cup game. Something that I don't think is contradictory at all.
Would I want to see us play an unchanged front 6 in the 3 upcoming games. Yes, if they could play. But in all likelihood I think we will see at least 3-4 of them playing each game. And that should not be a problem. Over Christmas, which was a good period for us, how many did we rotate and what effect did that have? Why could that not happen again, bearing in mind that this weekend it will be 1 game in a week.
The truth of the matter is that Poch is the one that is best placed to make the judgements on what team should be played and what the players can and cannot do with the run of games that we have. He has shown over the Christmas period that our players can handle a number of games in a short period of time. I am saying that I do not see a reason why we should field a significantly weakened team for the FA Cup to focus on the league as I do not believe that it is warranted as it will not, in my mind, help with the league performance. If Poch decides to field a significantly rotated team for the FA Cup, then I will respect the decision. I will not agree, but I will not complain as I did at the Carling Cup, as the results since have proved me wrong.
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Luka Modric
It is obviously important to find the right balance between resting players and picking a team that will win the match. I think there are a number of players who are probably in need of a game such as Vorm, Bentaleb, Chadli, Trippier, Wimmer, Onomah and perhaps Son. Add in Rose who hasn't played much lately and Carrol who has just broken into the team and that only leaves us to find somebody to partner Wimmer at centre half and somebody to play in the central attacking midfield role.
So that probably means one of Toby/Jan playing and the other on the bench and also one of Lamela/Ericksen/Alli playing and the other two on the bench (unless Poch really wants to be very bold and also give Harry Winks a game?
So that probably means one of Toby/Jan playing and the other on the bench and also one of Lamela/Ericksen/Alli playing and the other two on the bench (unless Poch really wants to be very bold and also give Harry Winks a game?
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I think you need to look at the season in its totality and not just at 3-4 game stretches. Yes, we did well over the Xmas period with little rotation, but that's just a 4-game stretch. You need to take into consideration the demands of the entire season. I'm sure Poch is doing that, so anything we offer is probably just second guessing, as you correctly point out.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Nice idea from Levy that seems to have had an effect.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...aniel-levy-to-duet-if-tottenham-win-a-trophy?
Levy invited Pochettino and a number of club legends to a dinner in London on Thursday and the Argentine reminisced with the likes of Ossie Ardiles, Micky Hazard, Pat Jennings and Tony Galvin about past glories.
"It was a pleasure to meet them all, a fantastic idea from Daniel and the club. They are an important part of the history and the present of the club. It was a great idea from Daniel to explain the present project of the club and to feel the history is very important for us.
It was a lovely night to share with them ideas and their experience can help take the club the right way. They can be involved and that can be very important.
It was a fantastic idea, a lovely night to share and talk about football. I learned the passion that people have and how people identify with the badge. I think it was important to feel this love for the club."
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...aniel-levy-to-duet-if-tottenham-win-a-trophy?
Levy invited Pochettino and a number of club legends to a dinner in London on Thursday and the Argentine reminisced with the likes of Ossie Ardiles, Micky Hazard, Pat Jennings and Tony Galvin about past glories.
"It was a pleasure to meet them all, a fantastic idea from Daniel and the club. They are an important part of the history and the present of the club. It was a great idea from Daniel to explain the present project of the club and to feel the history is very important for us.
It was a lovely night to share with them ideas and their experience can help take the club the right way. They can be involved and that can be very important.
It was a fantastic idea, a lovely night to share and talk about football. I learned the passion that people have and how people identify with the badge. I think it was important to feel this love for the club."