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Japhet Tanganga

One thing that this evenings match did was validate something I already knew, that Tanganga is head and shoulders the best right back in the squad. Doherty looked atrocious, again.

Tanganga would probably have cemented his place as our first choice RB months ago, were it not for that succession of injury problems… fingers crossed he’s now over them.

Japhet Tanganga opens up on the four injuries that have stopped him becoming a Tottenham regular | Football.London
Tottenham fans have not seen much of Japhet Tanganga in match action this season after making a huge impression for the club 12 months ago. Handed a shock league debut against runaway leaders Liverpool, the 21-year-old grasped his opportunity with both hands and dealt incredibly well up against the likes of Sadio Mane and Mohamed Salah.

Playing a further nine games for Jose Mourinho until football came to a halt at the start of March due to the coronavirus pandemic, Tanganga didn't appear again for Spurs after the restart due to a back issue. The academy graduate has made seven appearances in total so far this term, with three of those in the Europa League, but a number of niggling injuries have stopped him adding to that total.

Injured Tottenham defender Japhet Tanganga ruled out for two months with ankle ligament damage | Standard Sport
Tottenham defender Japhet Tanganga is expected to sidelined for around two months after scans revealed ankle ligament damage. Tanganga suffered the injury in Spurs' midweek defeat to Aston Villa and is likely to miss the start of pre-season training under their new manager.

The injury caps a frustrating campaign for the 22-year-old defender, who has also been sidelined with shoulder and thigh problems. He managed 13 appearances in total, including six League starts.
 
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Well, he showed today that he's a bit weak when up against a strong and skilful speed-merchant.
I think we can extend a modicum of understanding towards him for that.
 
I don't think he was poor today he just got outplayed by a dangerous attacker that many FBs struggle with.

Of course he was poor. What's the problem with acknowledging it? Just as he took the plaudits last week, he needs to take the criticism this week. Traore ran him ragged and most importantly he played him wrongly, getting too close and then being rolled by someone with equal strength and greater pace. It will be a learning experience for him and to be fair he will not come up against many similar players in the league. However, anyone thinking we do not need reinforcements at right back may be well surprised as the season progresses.
 
Of course he was poor. What's the problem with acknowledging it? Just as he took the plaudits last week, he needs to take the criticism this week. Traore ran him ragged and most importantly he played him wrongly, getting too close and then being rolled by someone with equal strength and greater pace. It will be a learning experience for him and to be fair he will not come up against many similar players in the league. However, anyone thinking we do not need reinforcements at right back may be well surprised as the season progresses.
Hmm I don't think he was poor because he got outplayed by his rival, I honestly have no problem acknowledging a poor performance from him or anyone else. I have 0 sentimental connection.

However I don't think he did poor things he was just outplayed by the better player today imo. Poor would be making poor challenges, leaving his man unmarked, not seeing danger he did the opposite of all of that just was bettered by the better player. [emoji2379]
 
We seem to be having a healthy difference of opinion today. He was outplayed because he was not clever enough, He tried to play Traore as he played Grealish - close and combative - without realising that he was dealing with a completely different style of player.... ending up being rolled a number of times and getting carded for a truly nasty challenge. That is poor play in my book....
 
Well, he showed today that he's a bit weak when up against a strong and skilful speed-merchant.
I think we can extend a modicum of understanding towards him for that.

One problem with Nuno's narrow midfield and forwards is that the full-backs can get exposed IMO, compared to say if the full-back had a winger in front of him
 
He started off having a very hard time against Traore but he got better as the game went on and won the battle in the second half. Still learning the game at RB and the different type of players he is facing but he will get there i am sure. Least of our problems going forward.
 
Well, he showed today that he's a bit weak when up against a strong and skilful speed-merchant.
I think we can extend a modicum of understanding towards him for that.

I remember a couple of years ago when we had about 4 or 5 players all booked for fouling Adama Traore, so I will cut him a lot of slack as most defenders get ripped apart by his pace, good thing his end product is not great
 
We seem to be having a healthy difference of opinion today. He was outplayed because he was not clever enough, He tried to play Traore as he played Grealish - close and combative - without realising that he was dealing with a completely different style of player.... ending up being rolled a number of times and getting carded for a truly nasty challenge. That is poor play in my book....

All that tells me is still learning as a newly positioned right back. It is a different skill set from being a central defender which he had been throughout his youth football and even up to his debute against Liverpool
 
Of course - could not agree more. If we decide not to loan him out and put him as our first choice RB, then he is going to make mistakes because that is the only way he will learn and improve. We have to accept that.

The issue that started the argument was whether he had a poor game or not...
 
Of course he was poor. What's the problem with acknowledging it? Just as he took the plaudits last week, he needs to take the criticism this week. Traore ran him ragged and most importantly he played him wrongly, getting too close and then being rolled by someone with equal strength and greater pace. It will be a learning experience for him and to be fair he will not come up against many similar players in the league. However, anyone thinking we do not need reinforcements at right back may be well surprised as the season progresses.
Had he stood off Traore and let him get a run up we would have been in just as much trouble. Then someone could have come on here saying that Tanganga played him the wrong way and didn't get close enough.

In those particular situations, one v one situations with space to attack Traore truly is world class when on form. There is no right or wrong way, whatever you do you're in trouble.

Luckily for us Traore isn't anywhere near world class at just about everything else so it didn't end up costing us.

To me not on Tanganga, but on Nuno and the team for allowing Traore to get into those positions repeatedly with ease.
He started off having a very hard time against Traore but he got better as the game went on and won the battle in the second half. Still learning the game at RB and the different type of players he is facing but he will get there i am sure. Least of our problems going forward.
Think we improved as a team. Lucas got wider and helped shut down the service to Traore and deal with the wing back. Allowed Tanganga to stick closer to Traore before he got the ball instead of having to deal with the wing back and leave Traore to Sanchez (wich ended just as predictably when that happened in the first half). Also partly that Traore ran out of steam.

There was a cost to that, Wolves got more space on the other side, more work for our central midfielders to do, leaving Moutinho and Neves with more space.

You just can't keep giving Traore that much space and freedom unless you're just going to gamble that he won't find the end product.

Bit disappointed that we didn't adjust in the first half.
 
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