Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
But you dont need Kane or Chadli body strength to succeed in the premier league. All the suscessful players here dont have it. Look at Eriksen, Carzola, Mata, Coutinho, Sterling, Silva.
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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool
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But you dont need Kane or Chadli body strength to succeed in the premier league. All the suscessful players here dont have it. Look at Eriksen, Carzola, Mata, Coutinho, Sterling, Silva.
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
He doesn't know when to release the ball, though; he's always running into traffic, trying to beat two, three and four. He either needs to stop doing that, or get better equipped to deal with the inevitable consequence. I do think he's got better at shielding it, but he's still got a long way to go.
But he simply doesn't have the same level of football intelligence as those players, Eriksen for example is forever turning up in the right place at the right time, finding space to exploit and do good work in.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Fair enough. You make more sense than Tim Vickery.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
He just needs to do the simple and easy things more, he is like the Argentinian David Bentley at times, always doing the flicks and unecessary tricks and hollywood passes
Play simple, play well, get in a groove then the showboating stuff will come, he has undoubted talent that's for sure, he just needs to simplify his game
Play simple, play well, get in a groove then the showboating stuff will come, he has undoubted talent that's for sure, he just needs to simplify his game
He has shown plenty of intelligence on the ball and looks the most likely to play in runners behind the opposition defense. It doesn't always come off but you'd have to not be looking to not be seeing the speed of thought he exhibits when attempting such passes.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
You missed a few qualifiers in there didn't you?
Not my point. What you said about Lamela can be said about every player we sign. If bigger clubs had wanted him and offered as much money as we did he probably would have gone there. So obviously they didn't rate him highly enough. It's essentially a nothing argument.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Still very young. Clearly talented (or did you miss that part of what Vickery said?). Still adapting to this league. Playing for a team that's been far from settled.
Who knows how Silva, Mata and Cazorla would have managed at 21-22 if thrown in under the same circumstances as what Lamela has been at Spurs.
Has been developing in that direction I think. Quite a time ago people were pointing out that he was moving the ball on quicker, that he was choosing the easier option more often.
No, I disagree, he can play the type of ball a competent footballer can play - case in point - pass to Chadli that led to goal against Leicester - everything was there in front of him and he had half the pitch to aim for.
Kane to Mason against Man Utd? No chance.
Eriksen to Chadli leading to Rose goal? Maybe, but under that kind of intensity probably not.
clevelandspur
Pascal Chimbonda
This, if we can get 15m or so I would move him on and recoup some money I honestly think it's no coincidence that our best performances of the season he has not been in the team.
As many have mentioned we are one away from being a top team with Kane, Chadli, and Eriksen hopefully Townsend can step up as he seems to be finding some decent form
You only see what you want to see with regards to Lamela, as is evidenced by your consistent posting in this thread, in which you build up every negative aspect of his game and gloss over, or in some cases completely dissmiss, any positive.
As i said he's played plenty of intelligent passes, coming in from the right to crowded areas with two or three opposition players in tow yet riding the challenges and playing little reverse balls in to a runner - Kane, Soldado or Eriksen usually - types of passes which lead to direct one v ones or drawing last ditch interceptions from the defenders
As I've said before, I really don't rate him and think we should cut our losses on him, this window preferably, and I've always tried to make rational arguments why that's the case, referring to the comments of Tim Vickery regarding his physical weakness to back up something I said ages ago.
I could easily say you are guilty of overstating any contribution he makes and looking for something that's not there, whereas I may happen to believe something different, but as regards a player like Kane's superior footballing intelligence and speed of thought, I could point to many indisputable examples of it: Kane to Dier against West Ham being one such (big moment, big pass).
This ...
Our right side problem, both Lamela and Townsend need to play a simple game .. neither are able to play a role and accept being part of the team before needing to show off.
nerdved
Anthony Gardner
His standing among supporters would improve notably if he dropped the gloves and got rid of the mohawk.
Beyond that I still believe he will be massive for us. He is still young, talented and has a great work ethic. Excellent fit with Pochettino.
Edit: The comparison to David Bentley is miles off. What hollywood passes? They are not part of his game whatsoever. And whatever flicks he attempts he generally succeeds with. His main problem, as has been mentioned, is to make better decisions between the easy early pass and when to take on defenders.
Beyond that I still believe he will be massive for us. He is still young, talented and has a great work ethic. Excellent fit with Pochettino.
Edit: The comparison to David Bentley is miles off. What hollywood passes? They are not part of his game whatsoever. And whatever flicks he attempts he generally succeeds with. His main problem, as has been mentioned, is to make better decisions between the easy early pass and when to take on defenders.
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Your Kane to Dier example from the West Ham game just highlights your bias on the subject - no more intelligent than the Lamela pass you earlier dismissed. In light of that any time spent highlighting other moments of interest would be a total waste of time on my part so i will bow out from this now [emoji106]
What is part of his game is the constant "take the more difficult option" when there is an easier/quicker one available (which is very Bentley). Bentley's best games for us was a little spell when he kept it simple, recycled the ball quickly, didn't try to be Beckham.
What concerns me with Lamela (and Poch) is why can't he just put in a couple of 90 minutes spells where he just keeps it simple, don't risk losing the ball, be willing to take on 1 or 2, but no more, if there is an early pass, take it.
The rest of the team has had really good performances, Lamela is still miles off, it may click for him, but a long way away right now.
Ok, that is your opinion and I respect that, though I would say that Lamela had 5 seconds in which to make that pass whereas Kane had less than 1, that Lamela had a target area of around 5 square meters in which to aim, whereas Kane had less than 1, and Lamela was in a less pressurized game situation, first minute 0-0 verses last minute 0-0. But this is your opinion and I respect that and your decision to bow out
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
He does seem to be trying to change his game though. As for the can only go inside theory, in the last two games he went outside, beat his men hit the byline and laid it on a plate only for Kane to miss sitters, not having a dig at Kane BTW. It is there, he just needs to show it more.
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GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
I can't beliece people are even trying to engage in a discussion with bonsaiboy....
Lamelas has 1 goal and 4 assists, not too bad, he's scored some absolute wordies too. He doesn't get everything right, but when he does he looks incredible. He did stunningly well to set up kane with an open goal which he fluffed. I wonder what bindaiboy would've been saying if that was the other way around... Hmmm....
It's pretty much his first season, how anyone can it ore the clear ability this guy has, coupled with how hard he works and tracks back, why wouldn't we all want to see him do well?
Lamelas has 1 goal and 4 assists, not too bad, he's scored some absolute wordies too. He doesn't get everything right, but when he does he looks incredible. He did stunningly well to set up kane with an open goal which he fluffed. I wonder what bindaiboy would've been saying if that was the other way around... Hmmm....
It's pretty much his first season, how anyone can it ore the clear ability this guy has, coupled with how hard he works and tracks back, why wouldn't we all want to see him do well?
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
This is his second season..irrespective of the well timed injury this is his second year...and even when he played last year he didnt do well overall
this season he has raised his game but still not consistent enough or well enough for people to say that he is doing well tihs year
he is working hard and it shows...so all the more reason to give him time to get there...once he arrives this thread will go in the same way as the "carrick what does he do" thread
this season he has raised his game but still not consistent enough or well enough for people to say that he is doing well tihs year
he is working hard and it shows...so all the more reason to give him time to get there...once he arrives this thread will go in the same way as the "carrick what does he do" thread