I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

[milo]

I was positive about us signing him and my views on him as a player have formed solely from watching him play and checking out some of Roma videos, my views about him as a person relate solely to how well cut out I think he is flourish within the cultural environment of an English Club, and my instinct tells me he isn't that well suited.

For example, going the other way, the notion of Lennon going to Inter is ludicrous to me, not from a football point of view but because he'd be a fish out of water there and wouldn't get on at all well in that environment - but I had no doubt Bale would adapt well to life in Spain.

I don't know either Lamela, Lennon or Bale personally so obviously I'm just speculating based on instinct, observations and life experience.

But you would agree that this is largely supposition and that there is every chance that you are completely wrong?

 

[Bonsaiboy]

But you would agree that this is largely supposition and that there is every chance that you are completely wrong?

Of course, absolutely, I can't bring video evidence to prove my point as I was able to in regards to his footballing limitations (Not being able to use his right foot effectively, only having one type of shot etc).

Again, I reiterate, I'm not attacking the lad for who is, I just think we, as a professionally run football, should have made a thorough evaluation of Lamela for both his suitability to play in the English Premier League and do well within the confines of an English cultural context, and not gone solely on the word of someone - I.E. Baldini - who has limited knowledge of both. The guy fugged up three times over on Lamela, Soldado and Paulinho and should lose his job over it.

P.S. I'm sure Lamela has many mates, though they're all probably Spanish speaking.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Of course, absolutely, I can't bring video evidence to prove my point as I was able to in regards to his footballing limitations (Not being able to use his right foot effectively, only having one type of shot etc).

Again, I reiterate, I'm not attacking the lad for who is, I just think we, as a professionally run football, should have made a thorough evaluation of Lamela for both his suitability to play in the English Premier League and do well within the confines of an English cultural context, and not gone solely on the word of someone - I.E. Baldini - who has limited knowledge of both. The guy fugged up three times over on Lamela, Soldado and Paulinho and should lose his job over it.

P.S. I'm sure Lamela has many mates, though they're all probably Spanish speaking.

He is friends with the people he is best able to communicate with? Shock and horror.

 

[Modric THFC]

At the risk of being called a troll again and chased off the thread by the Lamelaites, I'd like to clarify that I did not say all the players hate him, I just get the sense he's perhaps a bit of an outsider within club, due to language/cultural issues and being something of an introvert - and his poor performances haven't helped the situation. Townsend and Soldado were having a bit of laugh together on the bench the other day, you never see that with Lamela.

It's really another thing that should have been picked up on before making the decision to sign him, Italian has many similarities with Spanish, and a Spanish speaker can understand the jist of what an Italian is saying and become fluent in the language in a short time - culturally there are many similarities as well.

You clearly haven't seen his instagram then!

 

[DubaiSpur]

So I can sum up some people's opinions:

* Lamela doesn't have a right foot;
* Infact, he doesn't have a left foot either, as he can't strike a football properly;
* He can't dribble past people, and also dribbles past people far too much;
* He is weak;
* All the players hate him.

Anything else? Maybe he's a member of ISIS?

Fixed.

 

[Modric THFC]

I am not convinced. Lamela had just scored his first ever league goal for us. And it was a wonder goal just like the "rabona" goal against Asteras. And just like the "rabona" goal, most players were too slow to celebrate with him. Eriksen just threw his arm in the air and walked off, didn't even bother to celebrate with Lamela. It could be due to being annoyed with us conceding the goal earlier. But then, only a few like Walker and Fazio went to congratulate Lamela at the end of the match as well. It is disappointing if the other players are not fully supporting Lamela

Yeah they hate each other

It all started that night Lamela knocked him out of the Fifa tournament

 

[milo]

Of course, absolutely, I can't bring video evidence to prove my point as I was able to in regards to his footballing limitations (Not being able to use his right foot effectively, only having one type of shot etc).

Again, I reiterate, I'm not attacking the lad for who is, I just think we, as a professionally run football, should have made a thorough evaluation of Lamela for both his suitability to play in the English Premier League and do well within the confines of an English cultural context, and not gone solely on the word of someone - I.E. Baldini - who has limited knowledge of both. The guy fugged up three times over on Lamela, Soldado and Paulinho and should lose his job over it.

P.S. I'm sure Lamela has many mates, though they're all probably Spanish speaking.

I don't think that the video you posted proved anything to be honest

 

[billyiddo]

Yeah they hate each other

It all that that night Lamela knocked him out of the Fifa tournament

Eriksen would clearly rather be on his phone than be there with Lamela

 

[Bonsaiboy]

I don't think that the video you posted proved anything to be honest

I could post half a dozen videos of Lamela's "One Shot" but none of any kind of other shots, excluding close range tap ins and a couple of volleys, which he seems pretty decent at to be fair. His "One Shot" is excellent, but it only works in one area of the pitch - Cutting in from the right, aiming at the far post. He'll clearly score 2 or 3 of those a year (No more because he doesn't generate enough power like Bale could) but I'd expect him to be able to do other kinds of shots from different areas of the pitch.

Same with the right foot, if anyone can provide evidence of him using it in a quality way, be my guest. If I had the time, I could put together a youtube video of him avoiding using it and not getting a cross or shot in and losing possession.

And I'd counter the "Maradonna never used his right foot" argument, with for every him there's a 1000 players who never became as good as they could be due to their inability to use their weaker foot effectively.

Regarding his dribbling ability, he's good in a tight space at creating space to get a shot off, but dribbling at speed and beating players, he isn't good at, not at all - he kind of looks like he spent too much time dribbling past chairs in his back garden as a kid - he isn't a reactive dribbler, but seems to go on a predetermined path that doesn't react to the movement of the defender.

If these issues could be addressed he could be a great player, but the fact they do exist and hasn't learnt these additional skills is pretty perplexing - I'd expect most of our academy players - the attacking ones especially - to be drilled in using their weaker foot and mastering different types of shots.

 

[milo]

I could post half a dozen videos of Lamela's "One Shot" but none of any kind of other shots, excluding close range tap ins and a couple of volleys, which he seems pretty decent at to be fair. His "One Shot" is excellent, but it only works in one area of the pitch - Cutting in from the right, aiming at the far post. He'll clearly score 2 or 3 of those a year (No more because he doesn't generate enough power like Bale could) but I'd expect him to be able to do other kinds of shots from different areas of the pitch.

Same with the right foot, if anyone can provide evidence of him using it in a quality way, be my guest. If I had the time, I could put together a youtube video of him avoiding using it and not getting a cross or shot in and losing possession.

And I'd counter the "Maradonna never used his right foot" argument, with for every him there's a 1000 players who never became as good as they could be due to their inability to use their weaker foot effectively.

Regarding his dribbling ability, he's good in a tight space at creating space to get a shot off, but dribbling at speed and beating players, he isn't good at, not at all - he kind of looks like he spent too much time dribbling past chairs in his back garden as a kid - he isn't a reactive dribbler, but seems to go on a predetermined path that doesn't react to the movement of the defender.

If these issues could be addressed he could be a great player, but the fact they do exist and hasn't learnt these additional skills is pretty perplexing - I'd expect most of our academy players - the attacking ones especially - to be drilled in using their weaker foot and mastering different types of shots.

Everyone agrees that he has been struggling for form since he joined us. It is natural that a player who is short on form will not show the full range of their abilities. I think that a fairer time to make a judgement on him would be at the end of the season, it will be his first full one in English football, after all.

 

[Mr_B]

great goal and all that but i was shocked that it was his first league goal for us, I wad really hoping having a manager of the same nationality would rub off on him more

 

[milo]

http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2014/12/23/spurs-boss-urges-caution-erik-lamela-burnley-stunner/

 

[Yiddo]

He needs to sort out his celebration aswell.

 

[Lemonade Money]

He needs to sort out his celebration aswell.

This. You can tell a lot from body language and he's clearly not cut out for the PL.

 

[Maltese Falcon]

I could post half a dozen videos of Lamela's "One Shot" but none of any kind of other shots, excluding close range tap ins and a couple of volleys, which he seems pretty decent at to be fair. His "One Shot" is excellent, but it only works in one area of the pitch - Cutting in from the right, aiming at the far post. He'll clearly score 2 or 3 of those a year (No more because he doesn't generate enough power like Bale could) but I'd expect him to be able to do other kinds of shots from different areas of the pitch.

Same with the right foot, if anyone can provide evidence of him using it in a quality way, be my guest. If I had the time, I could put together a youtube video of him avoiding using it and not getting a cross or shot in and losing possession.

And I'd counter the "Maradonna never used his right foot" argument, with for every him there's a 1000 players who never became as good as they could be due to their inability to use their weaker foot effectively.

Regarding his dribbling ability, he's good in a tight space at creating space to get a shot off, but dribbling at speed and beating players, he isn't good at, not at all - he kind of looks like he spent too much time dribbling past chairs in his back garden as a kid - he isn't a reactive dribbler, but seems to go on a predetermined path that doesn't react to the movement of the defender.

If these issues could be addressed he could be a great player, but the fact they do exist and hasn't learnt these additional skills is pretty perplexing - I'd expect most of our academy players - the attacking ones especially - to be drilled in using their weaker foot and mastering different types of shots.

Sorry, mate but you truly are bordering on the pathetic now. Symptomatic of the many fans who immediately take a dislike to a player, diss him at every opportunity and then will him to fail just to be proven right.

Go back some pages and you will see I have been one of Lamela's greatest critics; not cause I hate the guy - he actually seems a decent bloke. But mainly because I felt people were kissing his a*** and finding excuse after excuse for his (and Soldado's) poor performances yet at the same knocking other players unfairly.

However, whatever you say, Lamela was very good in his last game and gave some evidence that deserves some more time and support.

So why don't you just give it a bit of a rest? You made your point! If Lamela flops, you have a plethora of posts to come back and say "I told you so!". However if you keep this up and Lamela does turn the corner, you will end up a fool a thousand times more than LCLC and his ridiculous posts on Fazio...

 

[metalgear]

i guess every one is entitled to their opinion....

 

[Rossi22]

On a completely different note, what's with the short sleeve shirt and gloves fad? I get that your hands get hold, but do you no feel the cold on your arms? :lol: gloves should be banned after the age of 15. I can count on one hand the number of times I have played football and felt cold after 5 minutes. Could never understand Pav and Arshavin wearing gloves, they are from Russia FFS :ross:

The cold only affects their extremities, it's a fairly common condition.

 

[LutonSpurs]

As an avid football fan who has watched the game for near 20 years as an adult across many leagues I see something in Erik that I don't see in Paulinho and Capoue. I see the potential for him to be a star. He hasn't lived up to it but there is something there. He has my patience for this reason.

 

[sc25]

I see something in Erik that I don't see in Capoue.

Me too, but not sure its the best comparison since they play different positions that require different traits and skill sets. A comparison with Ericksen may be more closely aligned?

 

[LutonSpurs]

Me too, but not sure its the best comparison since they play different positions that require different traits and skill sets. A comparison with Ericksen may be more closely aligned?

Eriksen is showing he is special. Lamela is more like Willian at Chelsea. Shows alot of ability but seems to not score or pull of the amazing pass. Willian is a top player but hasn't lived up to the hype yet either.