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ENIC

He’d be a good guest I’m sure. He’s articulate and is knowledgeable about the club and the game as a whole. Surely it’s a good thing to have contrasting viewpoints and not just Gary Mabbutt esque posters who wouldn’t dare criticise the club and think they can do no wrong?

Oh I agree, I think @DubaiSpur would be a really interesting voice. Apologies to @billyiddo
if I misinterpreted the suggestion.
 
No not trolling... (other than the Dubai comment) it'd be a good listen I'm sure.

Pre ENIC and an overview of the Sugar years leading up to sale/purchase

Post purchase up until around the Pleat caretaker season

Arnesen/Jol through to Redknapp

AVB through to Poch

Latter years Poch through to Paratichi

Paratichi through to present day


A lot of topics to sink your teeth into there I'm sure

Again apologies, I mistook your suggestion of Dubai. I agree wholeheartedly that yours is a great suggestion. I will absolutely raise it.
 
Hahaha, a response I actually expected from you.

In 2014/15, we finished above Liverpool in 5th on 64 points to their 62. I mean, how many more ways would you like it written down for you to accept this is not 'moving goalposts', there was a period of time (not just a few months) where we had the edge over Liverpool and were in greater onfield ascension.

You and others keep retreating to 2017-19, yet you never acknowledge or address the questions regarding footballing decisions!
Sissoko cost 30 million
Janssen cost 17 million
N'Jie cost 12 million
N'Koudou cost 11 million
Moura cost 25 million

Here are a few of the players the manager wanted and didn't get... Mane, Winaldjum, Grealish, Maguire, Fernandes.

None of us have crystal balls so who knows if even two of them would've made a difference. I have always felt Mane and Winaldjum coming in would've been transformative.
What we can say is that the fact he decided against buying anyone for a little over a year after all that, tells us that he was tired of getting fobbed off with 'committee' choices. And we can also say that Klopp looked at that 4-1 hammering by us, and realised he'd spend the next few years behind us like the previous two unless he got VVD and Allison. His board got the sale of Coutinho done, and Klopp got the money.

Of course they've had duds; but strategcially, their 'duds' have not affected them like ours. You 'moved a goalpost or few LOL' and decided to bring up Lo Celso and N'Dombele. OK, whose fault was THAT palaver? Could it have been the fault of a chairman who at one moment spent to appease a manager he thought he wanted to keep, only to fudge him over the moment his 'lost love' whispered sweet nothings into his ear persistently? It was pathetic!

I did not say anything about a 'plot' of incompetency. I merely pointed out that we made some bad decisions with regards to potentially achieving massive things on the pitch. Off the field we are pretty untouchable, that is clear, yet I am always amazed that within that circle of praise, no-one has questioned that we chose the likes of Moussa and N'Jie instead of Mane and Winaldjum.

Again, NONE of this makes sense unless you are prepared to acknowledge that despite the financial differences, we were ahead of them in the pitch for several years, and that prudent-yet-slightly more adventurous speculation could well have ensured years of silverware and success...

Fair enough mate, as I mentioned to @Bishop we all have our viewpoints, it's been an emotional season, it's starting to feel like this current rev of conversations (for me at least) has run it's circle ..
 
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