Sigh. I know what Liverpool Football Club is about.
What I am talking about is NOT a 'myth' it is a reality.
Two exciting young managers in the league bringing a new level of pressing to the game.
On Oct 17th 2017, there was this game. Spurs 4 Liverpool 1. We were 3rd in the table and Liverpool were 9th. Remember, we'd spent the previous two seasons as the best club in the Prem (there was that weird stat where over two seasons we were the 'best')...
...Liverpool sold Coutinho and immediately addressed two areas Klopp felt were key. Keeper and CB. Remember too that the previous close season, we did not get either Mane or Winaldjum over the line (Mitchell quit, etc). I think it's fair to say that Allison and Van Dyk were transformative signings which helped Liverpool gain the platform to stride into great things.
We finished 10 points ahead of Liverpool in 2015/16
We finished 10 points ahead of Liverpool in 2016/17
We finished 2 points ahead of Liverpool in 2017/18
We finshed 26 points behind Liverpool in 2018/19
We spent a few years AHEAD of Liverpool and AHEAD of what Klopp was doing. The difference came in how each club operates.
Your West Ham equivalent is wrong because they have never had that level over us in the Premier League (or any that I can recall).
Mate, come on
- You just moved the goalposts from when Klopp joined to 2 years later
- Liverpool literally while behind us points wise in those years were not behind us financially (they have literally had 30+ years of financial advantage year over year)
- What happens in 2017 -2019? hint, club has another expense to start paying for (that was spiraling over cost)
- Yes, Pool did well with both the manager appointment and Allison, VVD but they have had duds, their duds don't matter as much (see thing about money), where ours (Ndombele/Lo Celso) cost us for years.
It's bricky timing (and typical Spurs) but it isn't some plot of incompetency by the club
Tottenham and Arsenal greatly diverged after we pipped them in May 2022 to CL, we've gone in greatly opposite direction...do we blame the stadium build for that too or just our own incompetence?
Do you actually want to look at Arsenal's results
- Pre stadium, post stadium and 7 years later? because hilariously you will probably prove the point everyone else has been making
- And again, moving goalposts, no one is arguing that the Jose (caveat Covid), Conte, Ange eras don't have significant mistakes (been clear my biggest bug with club right now is Ange is still here. The stadium and it's impact was necessary medicine that was always going to hurt short term, unfortunately to my earlier point, the timing was catastrophically bad.)