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Oreintlism and the exotification of the other are academic western discourses. The belittling other cultures as a way to justify a sense of superiority and thus in the past colonialism and now neo colonialism. Are so ingrained in our culture they have become part of our collective consciousness (in a way). So we hear the word juju, something that I would guess 99% of this board know next to nothing about and emmediately its a source of ridicule and humour.
PS there are some sexy ginger woman out there.... And so few of them its kind of exotic
Seriously? You're the last person I thought would agree with this.
BE and I are laughing off Ade's beliefs as ridiculous (my word, not his). Just as I would any ridiculous belief from any culture.
DTA is, as far as I can tell, saying something along the lines of "How could we intelligent westerners expect Ade to know any better? He only one of those dumb African types"
Oreintlism and the exotification of the other are academic western discourses. The belittling other cultures as a way to justify a sense of superiority and thus in the past colonialism and now neo colonialism. Are so ingrained in our culture they have become part of our collective consciousness (in a way). So we hear the word juju, something that I would guess 99% of this board know next to nothing about and emmediately its a source of ridicule and humour.
PS there are some sexy ginger woman out there.... And so few of them its kind of exotic
I think you've entirely misrepresented both of our arguments there.
You've been on this board long enough to know that both of us hold each and every mystical/religious belief in equal disdain. That's nothing to do with culture and everything to do with believing stupid sh1t.
That's really not what I'm saying and you know it, I'm saying why ridicule what anyone believes.... And I'm saying to do so is an inherently academic western discourse.
It's an inherently acedemic discourse, I'm not sure I'd describe it as Western. There's a very good reason for ridiculing all silly beliefs - it makes the next generation so much less likely to believe in it. By doing so you've helped marginalise what was common belief and helped improve the lives of a generation.
Maybe I'm being a bit dim, but was does the shamanistic religions/cultures being 'light years' ahead of the west in terms of recycling and reuse and balanced ecology have to do with the naturalistic fallacy?
From your article:
"In defense of ethical non-naturalism, Moore's argument is concerned with the semantic and metaphysical underpinnings of ethics. In general, opponents of ethical naturalism reject ethical conclusions drawn from natural facts."
Semantics?
I think you are smart enough to know you are being obtuse there, either that or naive (why I find hard to believe you are). Perhaps look in to so called 'scientific racism' (that was an actual thing guys) and see how it was used to justify colonalism
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
No just agreeing that there are cultures and beliefs outside the ones from western civilizations that have been around much longer than current western culture have been and that , well you know , probably deserve a little bit of respect
Make no mistakes that there are cultures i dont get at all, but if its someone else's culture and belief who am i mark them down for it ?
"He only one of those dumb African types"
i missed that inference...i probably need to go a few more pages back
you do realise that if thats not what he was saying then thats just a portrayal of your natural mental filter on either adebayor or topics like this.
Are you are arguing against, recycling re use and a balanced ecology then?
There was never that inference at all, just scara trying to derail/ deflect from the fact that I called him and braineclipse out on their elitest attitudes to other cultures/religions.
Not that I should have to say this, but since scara is deliberately misrepresenting what I said, and that has put doubts in your mind
For what its worth my own people came from a shamistic back ground in central Asia and the modern interpretation of our now monolithic religion still contains elements of this. This is also the case for the majority of people decended from the uk, as the celts were also shamistic, and in terms of the Celts the historians believe their systems to look after the old, disabled etc have only been matched by the ' modern world' in the last 100 years or so, that's a lot of going backward to go forward
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Yeah, I prefer things with a basis in reality.
I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with spellcasting/juju/whatevers?
When did I ridicule "religions and cultures" as a whole? I was talking about one specific belief! As a basis for humor no less. I think there are positive and negative aspects to many cultures, the same for religions (although perhaps more negative comparatively). Pointing out one negative aspect of one culture is not the same as ridiculing all of that culture, related cultures and all of their views. Your argument is a complete straw man.
Why?
For humor? For entertainment? For education? For progress?
Go ahead, say cultural relativism...
You're just wrong on this being an inherently academic western discourse.
So I give you 'scientific racism' and you give me shiny coats.... Interesting.
Your post would be 100% correct (maybe) if you were an expert in JuJu, are you?
If not my point stands and the fact that you can't even see that just reinforces it....
He did indeed.