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Eberechi Eze

Silly McSilly Face said:
Yeah that end line is the key. I'm all for the Jordan type balance and yes a lot of this stuff is out of our control. But there's a real theme running for years of us humiliating ourselves in the transfer market in a way other clubs simply do not do on a regular basis. We also went an entire two windows without signing anyone which is pretty much unheard of. We operate differently and not always for the better, often to our detriment and in a manner that so often appears to pi** everyone off. Yeah hes an angry Greek gangster but Saudi Sportswashing Machine managed to sign Elanga without all hell breaking loose.....just for example.
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With what's going on with isak and all the players that they have missed out on I'm not sure Saudi Sportswashing Machine are a club I'd be using as a good example.
 
Bishop said:
Because there is this revision that Havetz is a striker. Everyone is forgetting he's not, he's an AM/SS that Arsenal have been playing as a false 9. With the signing of Gyokeres, Havetz was likely going to be moved back to the 10 role/potentially rotate with Gyokeres when needed and hence the move for Eze now that he's injured. The belief in the Arsenal fan base is that Odegard needs to moved to 8 and a more direct 10 is needed ie. Eze.
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I agree about Haivertz
If they move Odegard to 8, which is where i assumed Zubamendi would play.. where does it all fit in
 
Glenda's Legs said:
But (if true at all) they apparently only agreed terms at the weekend (after the release clause had expired)?
We thought we had a deal (again, once the release clause was no longer relevant), then Parrish bought up some extra add-ons.
We worked through those and agreed a deal yesterday.
"Somehow" Woolwich found out about the deal value and offered the same yesterday (possibly with better payment terms).
Eze always preferred going back there, so having agreed personal terms with both of us, chose them.

If anything I could see that Parrish wanted to drag it out so as to have Eze for tonight's game, hence the extra add-ons.

I mean there's 101 iterations out there of what might have happened and none of us really know, but I don't think it was a case of us dragging things out in this instance (as may often have been the case in other transfers). Maybe we messed up or maybe we just got gazumped. Aside from paying the release clause I'm not sure we could have done this much sooner than we did (or thought we did 😂 ).
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Even if we did pay the release clause, they could offer to match it
Issue they had was financing it due to its mechanics
 
glasgowspur said:
With what's going on with isak and all the players that they have missed out on I'm not sure Saudi Sportswashing Machine are a club I'd be using as a good example.
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Are they being publically humiliated and trolled during these processes though? Missing out on targets is a fact of life. Every club can have a difficult window. Its the manner in which it seems to happen to us on a regular basis. Every window is a difficult window. Every window goes down to the wire and so often ends up with the coach fitting square pegs in round holes or making do and mend. And the PR around the difficulties seems to be particularly grating going back to Glenn Hoddle reading out a letter we got from Rivaldo. We've literally become a meme under ENIC.
 
tommysvr said:
I don't believe Spurs would have been completely oblivious to that. If we were, that's damning. If we weren't, why did we hang around haggling for 7 days or so?
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We seemingly done just that with Conor Gallagher the other year but correct me if I'm wrong but there was no pats on the back for not hanging around on that deal -- typical case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If we target PL proven first team ready players then we run the risk of being in for a player along with the clubs higher than us in the pecking order - and if they come in then it is unlikely we'll be the preferred destination, that's the long and short of it really - nothing changes there until we have a team that mixing it with the best.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Are they being publically humiliated and trolled during these processes though? Missing out on targets is a fact of life. Every club can have a difficult window. Its the manner in which it seems to happen to us on a regular basis. Every window is a difficult window. Every window goes down to the wire and so often ends up with the coach fitting square pegs in round holes or making do and mend. And the PR around the difficulties seems to be particularly grating going back to Glenn Hoddle reading out a letter we got from Rivaldo. We've literally become a meme under ENIC.
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Well these days it’s our own fans who feed the “publicly humiliated” engine.
Wailing and gnashing of teeth, emergency podcasts to discuss how doomed we are, let’s protest because a deal (seemingly) was pulled from our grasp by our biggest rivals. Yeah it’s not good by any means but it’s easy to troll us because our fans make us so “trollable”.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Are they being publically humiliated and trolled during these processes though? Missing out on targets is a fact of life. Every club can have a difficult window. Its the manner in which it seems to happen to us on a regular basis. Every window is a difficult window. Every window goes down to the wire and so often ends up with the coach fitting square pegs in round holes or making do and mend. And the PR around the difficulties seems to be particularly grating going back to Glenn Hoddle reading out a letter we got from Rivaldo. We've literally become a meme under ENIC.
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Oh they are
They are being laughed at a lot
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Are they being publically humiliated and trolled during these processes though? Missing out on targets is a fact of life. Every club can have a difficult window. Its the manner in which it seems to happen to us on a regular basis. Every window is a difficult window. Every window goes down to the wire and so often ends up with the coach fitting square pegs in round holes or making do and mend. And the PR around the difficulties seems to be particularly grating going back to Glenn Hoddle reading out a letter we got from Rivaldo. We've literally become a meme under ENIC.
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We've become a meme because our fans over react.
We are the enablers of this.
You say it yourself, every club loses out, but when we do the fans go into meltdown.
Imagine Harry did what isak is doing and add in not being able to sign half a dozen of our targets, would our fanbase be taking it so calmly?
WTF.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Well these days it’s our own fans who feed the “publicly humiliated” engine.
Wailing and gnashing of teeth, emergency podcasts to discuss how doomed we are, let’s protest because a deal (seemingly) was pulled from our grasp by our biggest rivals. Yeah it’s not good by any means but it’s easy to troll us because our fans make us so “trollable”.
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Bedfordspurs said:
I agree about Haivertz
If they move Odegard to 8, which is where i assumed Zubamendi would play.. where does it all fit in
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Squad depth id say. It's a great position to be in and not something winning teams concern themselves with. You win and the players who aren't happy you move on and bring in new competition.
 
billyiddo said:
We seemingly done just that with Conor Gallagher the other year but correct me if I'm wrong but there was no pats on the back for not hanging around on that deal -- typical case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If we target PL proven first team ready players then we run the risk of being in for a player along with the clubs higher than us in the pecking order - and if they come in then it is unlikely we'll be the preferred destination, that's the long and short of it really - nothing changes there until we have a team that mixing it with the best.
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The problem isn't being involved in the deal. It's letting it linger on for that long. Get it done, or move on to other targets. The club has rightly been praised for that in the case of Vicario, VDV and others in the past couple of seasons. It's nearly 3 weeks since Maddison got injured. We needed an attacking midfielder anyway...how are we in this position?

Eze is a different level because he's English player coming into his absolute prime at 27/28 years old. A potentially massive coop and a huge boost to the club and the players. And because we couldn't close the deal -- whether that's through our own fault or not -- is hugely discouraging. Though I place absolutely no blame on the club for it, on the back of MGW, it's even worse. And then it's Arsenal...compounds it that much more.

3 months ago we had our best night in 30 odd years. It was the time to push on, give Frank what he needs to start well. But it's got all the indications that this next period is going to go exactly the same way as it has every other time.
 
tommysvr said:
The problem isn't being involved in the deal. It's letting it linger on for that long. Get it done, or move on to other targets. The club has rightly been praised for that in the case of Vicario, VDV and others in the past couple of seasons. It's nearly 3 weeks since Maddison got injured. We needed an attacking midfielder anyway...how are we in this position?

Eze is a different level because he's English player coming into his absolute prime at 27/28 years old. A potentially massive coop and a huge boost to the club and the players. And because we couldn't close the deal -- whether that's through our own fault or not -- is hugely discouraging. Though I place absolutely no blame on the club for it, on the back of MGW, it's even worse. And then it's Arsenal...compounds it that much more.

3 months ago we had our best night in 30 odd years. It was the time to push on, give Frank what he needs to start well. But it's got all the indications that this next period is going to go exactly the same way as it has every other time.
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We are ever changing and ever evolving into the same thing.
 
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