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Does anyone suffer from mental illness on here?

spurspinter1 said:
Spoke on here about some ups and downs before...Given ups and downs (way long before lockdown) after some family and one ex manager recommended it I (begrudgingly) called the GP place, half hour chat really nice lady who advised to come in. Another talk with two dudes about the whole thing which I could summarize if need be.

Long story short after another phone assessment meant to take 30 min max that was 1:05 mins haha this organization was just a CBT course and I have to go in for checks / possible diagnosis of bi polar amongst a few other things. Honestly everyone I've spoken to (professionals, famly , friends, have been super amazing with it.

Not to sound too defensive but it's not like I'm after a "label" or even an excuse but it would be good to know alongside any good techniques / approaches.

I've been crazy busy with life but on a good vibe though, busked in town today, got the third kit, went on a fudging amazing first date.....Hope everyone's keeping well and taking care of each other when possible :cool:
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Good luck with with you are experiencing.

I think for me and what works for me is to have little goals and victories in life very much like your last sentence.

What I realised in the last two or three years which really helped me relax with things like work which would grate on me is that in reality you are only in control of a certain amount in life, you cant control people you work with or you meet day to day and in actual fact people probably wind themselves up more figuring out ways to control everything than taking a more...to quote the film The Gambler.....go fudge yourself attitude. Then you realise that at least in your own universe you deserve better and as long as you wake up and look in the mirror and like whats looking back thats all that counts. And then like I said when you get low or feel like the worlds on your back, set a goal, for me It could be something as silly as booking a ticket to see a film at the BFI and just go and enjoy it or like you, buy yourself something or do something you love..that hit of adrenaline you get can last a long time
 
I’ve stalked this thread a bit abs generally stayed away. My wife has 3 degrees (Shame she can’t sing) and leads a mental health team for the NHS. She also did trained in CBT (basics not the full course) and is generally thick skinned.
What she regularly comes across are people who don’t want to be helped. So the first hurdle is asking for help.
The second one then is recognising what is available to help and balancing that with the person. CBT she is a massive fan of but her recommended approach generally other than medically enhanced is trying to create a positive understanding with the person. That’s tough as you have to try to get the person to recognise the good things they have. It’s the toughest part of the job and they have people they spend upto 3 years with just on this
I don’t know the answers to anyone’s situations but hearing the world my wife works in it makes me thankful for how we are as a family and count our blessings
I’ll add that my brother is the polar opposite of me and struggles regularly with mental health issues. It’s a trait that half my family have and some have medical treatment for it (tablets, injections etc...)
I’ll add that if anyone wants to reach out to chat privately I’ll happily listen. I’ve got a big mouth but I’m also a great listener

Dan
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’ve stalked this thread a bit abs generally stayed away. My wife has 3 degrees (Shame she can’t sing) and leads a mental health team for the NHS. She also did trained in CBT (basics not the full course) and is generally thick skinned.
What she regularly comes across are people who don’t want to be helped. So the first hurdle is asking for help.
The second one then is recognising what is available to help and balancing that with the person. CBT she is a massive fan of but her recommended approach generally other than medically enhanced is trying to create a positive understanding with the person. That’s tough as you have to try to get the person to recognise the good things they have. It’s the toughest part of the job and they have people they spend upto 3 years with just on this
I don’t know the answers to anyone’s situations but hearing the world my wife works in it makes me thankful for how we are as a family and count our blessings
I’ll add that my brother is the polar opposite of me and struggles regularly with mental health issues. It’s a trait that half my family have and some have medical treatment for it (tablets, injections etc...)
I’ll add that if anyone wants to reach out to chat privately I’ll happily listen. I’ve got a big mouth but I’m also a great listener

Dan
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If all else fails just pat them on the back and tell them that it was worse during the war
 
Daisuk said:
I think Yuwal Harari says it well about happiness, and how the experience of it differs from person to person in the Sapiens book:

According to the ancient discoveries and researches, biologists hold that our mental and emotional world is governed by biochemical mechanisms shaped by millions of years of evolution. Like all other mental states like anger etc. , our subjective well-being is not determined by external parameters like salary, social relations or political rights. Instead, it is determined by complex systems of nerves and neurons and various biochemical substances like serotonin, dopamine and oxytocin.

Nobody is never made happy by winning the lottery, getting a promotion or even finding true love. People are made happy by only one thing, that is, pleasant sensations in their bodies. A person who just won the lottery or found the new love and jumps from joy is not really reacting to money or lover. That person is reacting to various hormones coursing through his bloodstream, and to the randomness of electric signals flashing between different parts of the brain.

Human happiness conditioning systems differ from person to person. On a scale of one to ten, some people are born with cheerful biochemical system that allows their mood to swing from six to ten, stabilizing with time at eight. Such a person remains happy even if he loses all his money in stock exchange crash or lives in a big alienated city.

Think of your family and friends, you know some people in your life among them who remains joyful no matter what befalls them. We tend to believe that if we buy a new car, get married or finish writing that novel, we would be on the top of the world. Yet when we get what we desire, we don’t seem to be any happier. We never gets satisfy with whatever we achieve and we tend to get bore after sometime. Buying cars, get married or writing novels do not get to change our biochemistry. They can only startle us for a fleeting moment.

Since our biochemistry limits the volume and duration of these sensations, the only way to make people experience a high level of happiness over an extended period of time is to manipulate their biochemical system.

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But of course, living in war is objectively worse than living a place where there is no war - but the way we as humans are hardwired to experience (or not experience) happiness does not rely that much on whether or not we're in a warzone.
You could say that footballers shouldn't complain, they should be happy, they earn so and so much and can have sex with pretty much any lady they'd like - but those things do not change their biochemistry.
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I'm not sure high levels of happiness over time is or should be the goal. Perhaps in some utopian future, but that soon starts sounding like a dystopia to me.

Sadness, grief, anger, guilt, curiosity, a sense of belonging, purpose and value. Those and others are just as important as happiness.

What can be changed is how one relates to feelings, thoughts, relationships, oneself. It's not easy, it's not linear, but it's possible.
 
There's a journey about self belief you have to go on. Your happiness based on others view of you is always a tricky road as it leads to anxiety and habits that let you constantly please folk. You kind of have to learn what is right and wrong for you. Draw those lines clearly and have the confidence in yourself that you are good enough and move with it.

But you can't do this on your own. Learning to like yourself and have confidence in your actions being good for you is something you may need help with. Especially if you suffer from anxiety. Professional help isn't affordable to all but even podcasts like those above may help. Reading books by the likes of Jung if you can hack it helped me.
 
Grays_1890 said:
If all else fails just pat them on the back and tell them that it was worse during the war
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“Never has youth been exposed to such dangers of both perversion and arrest as in our own land and day. Increasing urban life with its temptations, prematurities, sedentary occupations, and passive stimuli just when an active life is most needed, early emancipation and a lessening sense for both duty and discipline…”

Was written in 1904. About what was then the young generation that would go through WW1, a worldwide pandemic, the great depression, then be the parents and grandparents suffering WW2.

I have a strong dislike for the seemingly age old "kids these days" statements.
 
braineclipse said:
“Never has youth been exposed to such dangers of both perversion and arrest as in our own land and day. Increasing urban life with its temptations, prematurities, sedentary occupations, and passive stimuli just when an active life is most needed, early emancipation and a lessening sense for both duty and discipline…”

Was written in 1904. About what was then the young generation that would go through WW1, a worldwide pandemic, the great depression, then be the parents and grandparents suffering WW2.

I have a strong dislike for the seemingly age old "kids these days" statements.
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I was joking BTW as someone said earlier in thread they were bored of hearing peoples mental health was poor now as war was worse...or words to that
 
My partner suffers from seasonal affective disorder during these months. Some nutters prefer winter to summer. Do those people get sad in the summer when the days start getting longer and the sunshine gets stronger?
 
Robbo said:
This. My best therapy is running in the woods. Good for mind and body.
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Saw some people swimming in the sea yesterday. Think they were doing the cold water therapy thing, off of southwick lighthouse.

Was really impressed with them.

I'm on a good day went up to borough market and got a load of cured Spanish meats and fruit syrups and meat pies.
 
Jurgen the German said:
My partner suffers from seasonal affective disorder during these months. Some nutters prefer winter to summer. Do those people get sad in the summer when the days start getting longer and the sunshine gets stronger?
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Didn't know that..I thought it was only the shorter days (ie winter) that br.ought that on?
 
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Danishfurniturelover said:
Saw some people swimming in the sea yesterday. Think they were doing the cold water therapy thing, off of southwick lighthouse.

Was really impressed with them.

I'm on a good day went up to borough market and got a load of cured Spanish meats and fruit syrups and meat pies.
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Layabout. Did you get a cheese sarnie at Kappacasein?
 
I was doing well over 12k steps a day for a long period of spring, summer what with being really busy at work and the weather changing that's stopped now and I can really notice a difference in how I feel am going to force myself to try and do at least 7,500 a day going forward even if it means walking round the block where I live rather than through the fields etc
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Saw some people swimming in the sea yesterday. Think they were doing the cold water therapy thing, off of southwick lighthouse.

Was really impressed with them.

I'm on a good day went up to borough market and got a load of cured Spanish meats and fruit syrups and meat pies.
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Don't want to generalise, of course, but I believe exposure nature to be underrated when it comes to preventing mental illness/problems. Regular trips to the woods, mountains or sea has at least been beneficial in my struggle with inner demons.

Cured Spanish meats surely is good for your well being too, I'm sure.
 
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