Does anyone suffer from mental illness on here?

[SteveAWOL]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-budget-mental-health-according-new-data.html

Local authorities spend less than one per cent of their public health budget on mental health, and the figure is shrinking year on year, according to new data.

The charity Mind used the Freedom of Information Act to analyse figures from councils on how much they spend on preventing mental health problems.

Councils are supposed to promote both the physical and mental well-being of all their residents.

The figures showed that 13 local authorities spent nothing at all on preventing mental health problems in 2015/16. Overall, the proportion of the public health budget spent on mental health stood at 0.9 per cent, down from 1.4 per cent in 2013/14.

From next April, local authorities will have to report what they spend on mental health. At present, the data is filed under “miscellaneous” with 14 other areas of spending.

The investigation by Mind also showed that some regions do not plan to spend any money on preventing mental ill health in the forthcoming year.

The charity estimates that poor mental health costs at least £105 billion a year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/799212779475451904

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

My problems were actually a manifestation of a physical problem, though I am a believer in mental health issues and would advice anyone to get help as soon as possible because talking things through helps. I have now taken a multi pronged approach to my health care needs and that includes spending more time on mental well being then I would have done ten years ago because to be mentally strong and positive has an impact on your physical health.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

Still a lot of stigma attached to the issues, particularly in the work place. Until the whole of society become more aware and supportive people will keep their problems to themselves.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

please excuse the paper it is linked from, but none the less it makes interesting reading

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...otic-illnesses-treatable-immune-disorder.html

leads into my belief on healthy body healthy mind

I am pretty much scouring the internet for stories like this at the moment

 

[milo]

please excuse the paper it is linked from, but none the less it makes interesting reading

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...otic-illnesses-treatable-immune-disorder.html

leads into my belief on healthy body healthy mind

I am pretty much scouring the internet for stories like this at the moment

I'd be very careful about taking anything that the Mail says on health (or anything else) seriously. They are just about the worst paper in the country, after the red tops and Express, for science reporting.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I'd be very careful about taking anything that the Mail says on health (or anything else) seriously. They are just about the worst paper in the country, after the red tops and Express, for science reporting.

Yep they have a large medical section that seems to contradict itself on a regular basis, but it is interesting when they link to what scientists are thinking.

Not from the mail but I have read many articles online about people with MND who have been wrongly diagnosed with it when in fact it is lyme disease, the links in America to the amount of MND or ALS as they call it out there and the are spikes and higher amounts around areas where the reports of lyme disease make me think the can be other causes for diseases.

Also if we think back to the madness of King George, people thought he was just mad but he had an inflammation of the brain. I am a believer that the can be different reasons for diseases that modern medicine has just not uncovered yet.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Interesting article on autism https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161215143402.htm

 

[SteveAWOL]

Last night's Panorama is worth a watch, some rather harrowing stories though...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08f0htn/panorama-revealed-britains-mental-health-crisis

One month after prime minister Theresa May promised to 'transform the way we deal with mental health problems right across society', reporter Sophie Hutchinson investigates the troubled state of NHS mental health services.

She hears the concerns of staff and patients at the first mental health trust in England to be placed in special measures, and learns of the deteriorating national picture for mental health care funding, exclusively revealing new figures that show a shocking increase in unexpected deaths of mental health patients.

 

[PochettinoPochettinoPochettino]

Would like to add that for the past 3 months I have been seeing a therapist every two weeks to try and help my anxiety that I still have and any other issues I have.

It's very very helpful just to talk to someone even if you don't think you need to. I can tell her stuff that I wouldn't tell my Mrs, but it's pretty much stuff I tell you fcukers anyway, only deeper.

Plus, she's really hot.

 

[parklane1]

Its a difficult subject without a doubt and having had similar problems when i was younger sympathise with anyone who has to deal with this.

About the time i was in a bit of a mess i read a book by Spike Milligan ( not sure younger viewers will remember him) he has been in and out of hospitals a few times and his words made sense to me and did help.


"Is it mad to be sane"
" Or is it sane to be mad".

 

[thfcsteff]

Its a difficult subject without a doubt and having had similar problems when i was younger sympathise with anyone who has to deal with this.

About the time i was in a bit of a mess i read a book by Spike Milligan ( not sure younger viewers will remember him) he has been in and out of hospitals a few times and his words made sense to me and did help.


"Is it mad to be sane"
" Or is it sane to be mad".

Love Spike...yes, he was complex...Lemm loved him too.


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app

 

[El Guepardo]

i have had cognitive behavioural therapy before. I've had suicidal thoughts and whilst not acting upon these, have often gone to sleep at night almost praying that I didn't wake in the morning.

When you are in a place of mental anguish, whatever the cause or direct symptoms, it can be hard to see beyond the pain that you are feeling at that exact moment in time. Last night, I was in tears, my anxiety builds up like a bucket, the more that I think, the more that I process ideas, the more that I'm pouring in to this bucket. When the bucket is full, then it will overflow. Sometimes I can hold the bucket at an angle, distract myself, and some of the water will pour out and so the bucket will fill less quickly.

Other times, the bucket fills up very quickly. Either way, I get to the point where I am unable to internalise my emotions. I never intend to make a public scene of drama but, it's happened in the past. I have been sent home from work, in tears, as my work has failed to distract my mind from thinking of the thoughts which are torturous to me. I feel embarrassed, but thankfully even if there are those that find me 'weird', most of my colleagues appear to be supportive, at least when I'm dealing with them.

My psychologist advised me that he thought I had difficulties with a level of OCD. OCD can be in different forms. There are those people that assume that OCD just means that someone likes being 'tidy'. I can assure you that being tidy is not one of my skills. Instead, my OCD relates to my inability to 'let go'. I'll have a worry in my mind and no matter how hard I try to let go, I'll always find myself back at the same place. I will want a problem to be fixed and, if it's not, will want to take action to fix it and it becomes all that I'm about.

It's tough to find distractions when my mind is in that kind of turmoil as its hard to switch off, or relax, when I know that the underlying problem has not been resolved.

I find that sleep is more important to me now, than ever. If I don't sleep well, then the water in to the bucket (an analogy defined above) increases in pressure and the bucket fills a lot more quickly. Sleep well and I feel stronger for it and more equipped to deal with the matter at hand,

I know that I'll never be fully 'well'. I'll just learn to manage my situation more effectively, but I'll still make irrational decisions, still get upset, and I'll still overthink. But that's my lot in the same way that someone with a physical ailment such as arthritis must deal too with their own symptoms.

 

[monkeybarry]

i have had cognitive behavioural therapy before. I've had suicidal thoughts and whilst not acting upon these, have often gone to sleep at night almost praying that I didn't wake in the morning.

When you are in a place of mental anguish, whatever the cause or direct symptoms, it can be hard to see beyond the pain that you are feeling at that exact moment in time. Last night, I was in tears, my anxiety builds up like a bucket, the more that I think, the more that I process ideas, the more that I'm pouring in to this bucket. When the bucket is full, then it will overflow. Sometimes I can hold the bucket at an angle, distract myself, and some of the water will pour out and so the bucket will fill less quickly.

Other times, the bucket fills up very quickly. Either way, I get to the point where I am unable to internalise my emotions. I never intend to make a public scene of drama but, it's happened in the past. I have been sent home from work, in tears, as my work has failed to distract my mind from thinking of the thoughts which are torturous to me. I feel embarrassed, but thankfully even if there are those that find me 'weird', most of my colleagues appear to be supportive, at least when I'm dealing with them.

My psychologist advised me that he thought I had difficulties with a level of OCD. OCD can be in different forms. There are those people that assume that OCD just means that someone likes being 'tidy'. I can assure you that being tidy is not one of my skills. Instead, my OCD relates to my inability to 'let go'. I'll have a worry in my mind and no matter how hard I try to let go, I'll always find myself back at the same place. I will want a problem to be fixed and, if it's not, will want to take action to fix it and it becomes all that I'm about.

It's tough to find distractions when my mind is in that kind of turmoil as its hard to switch off, or relax, when I know that the underlying problem has not been resolved.

I find that sleep is more important to me now, than ever. If I don't sleep well, then the water in to the bucket (an analogy defined above) increases in pressure and the bucket fills a lot more quickly. Sleep well and I feel stronger for it and more equipped to deal with the matter at hand,

I know that I'll never be fully 'well'. I'll just learn to manage my situation more effectively, but I'll still make irrational decisions, still get upset, and I'll still overthink. But that's my lot in the same way that someone with a physical ailment such as arthritis must deal too with their own symptoms.

This echoes pretty much how my 2016 was.
If you ever want to, please feel free to PM me.
I did CBT for alot of last year and it helped me make some huge life changes. Sadly ended in my wife and I seperating.
One book I found incredibly was Reasons to stay Alive by Matt Haig. It's his account of his suicidal depression and I genuinely think it should be on prescription. I don't really read books, but I couldn't put this down and it has a huge impact in piecing some things together.

I'm in a strange place now where I'm trying to rebuild my life in situations I didn't really want to be in, but I'm here and will make it work. Making new friends in your mid 30s in London is quite a challenge!
And I'm in this strange position where I actually miss feeling suicidal. It acted as a life option, almost like a friend. But it no longer is.

 

[thfcsteff]

My wife deals with anxiety and depression. Over nearly 20 years, she has come an enormous way, but one thing which still catches her out sometimes is that it is a maintenance thing, and if she does not keep up with the processes that help her through bouts, then it can overwhelm her. My daughter also has strong signs of anxiety which cause anger that internalizes and leaves her feeling very bleak. She has spoken self-harm and suicidal thoughts. She started therapy last year and there has been a huge improvement in her ability to process her way through things. She is also very very communicative about it all. I believe that one day she will need medication to help with the anxiety, but for now we are letting her use the tools given to work through things until she has fully come through the early teen stage and her body is a bit more regulated. to El Guepardo and Monkeybarry, guys, keep fighting the good fight and find that room to slow it all down and let it pass through. One thing I know works is to literally take whatever is causing you anxiety to the worst possible conclusion; often you find it isn't nearly as terrible as it might seem in the distance/there is a direct way out. Be sure to trust yourselves. Again, great thread.

 

[AuroRaman]

I finally succumbed to an alcohol dependancy last summer after about 20 years of denial. After losing my fiancee of ten years, I admitted it had got hold of me and I went into a programme. I also have to attend AA regularly, which although not ideal as I'm not into the 'GHod' element of it, really does work. I was sober from August until November last year, but then stopped going to AA as I though I was 'healed'. Started drinking again and much heavier than before.

I am incredibly lucky to still have a wonderful support network around me. I didn't lost my day job and I still have regular camera work. I have been in the company of people who have lost literally everything, no support network, no home, no daily interactions. It's a daily struggle and brings about elements of anxiety, depression and worthlessness. I used to run a lot and keep fit but have let myself go over the last few months. A dear friend of mine has suggested running the Brighton Marathon in April, plus the Hackney Half which I have run twice previously. I'm considering doing both as it will give me a focus and I am actively looking to start gigging again as playing music gives me a sense of freedom and purpose.

I have just moved to Walthamstow and living on my own for the first time in my life. It's scary and I struggle to sleep but I know I have to do this in order to grow as a person. My ex has been very supportive, we still love each other and perhaps further down the line something could reignite, but for now I have to focus on myself and my recovery. I still see her regularly as we share a wonderful little roosterapoo called Dunder. He keeps me sane!

I thought about writing in this thread previously but didn't feel I had the courage at the time, but seeing new posts now I thought it would be good to speak up, and if anyone is in a similar position I am happy to lend an ear x

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I am on my phone and cant seem to spend pm.

To Milo am really sorry for last night and sorry if did anything that brought problems for the site.

The last week was relaxing on beach. I read matthew syeds book bounce and then book called marshmellow test which though a lot of positive in it i guess i focused on the bad as it is my son and what i might have focused most on.

Funny enough the hotel were threatning to throw us out because of my behaviour last night, but were moving onto another island tomorrow.

I am lucky to have a wife with the patience of a saint but am aware i might ruin that. I only popped into a bar to watch the spurs match but im a sociable guy and quickly made friends and stayed all night drinking. I am not supposed to drink as i need to stay as healthy as possible, it is weird how on guard you have to be the whole time.

Milo your a good guy with a kind heart thanks for looking out for me a deeply embarrased, ben.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

One further thing, the marshmellow test book is at the bottom of a packed suitcase so i cant quote directly but will when we get koh samui.

Anyway in the book it said in America the are more suicides a year then homicides in America yet the is little in public research into ot.

In england it is in the top 10 reasons for death but its only funding is a little bit of therapy. The is also big extracts on it in the excellent and thought provoking think like a freak book.

Guys one day i will be open with everyone about what i am going through. Because we on here are a family, the fact that we sometimes argues proves were family. But if you do have some mental issues two things, it is good to talk and try to stay away from the booze.

 

[Daisuk]

It's great to finally come across this thread! Thanks for starting it and sharing, @Danishfurniturelover (and everyone else sharing as well). I've always found the football fan-community to be somewhat masculine and not very open to talking about these kind of things, so it's very good to see some of you sharing. I've had my bouts of depression, anxiety and OCD as well (I honestly think it's in my genes, I'm just a neurotic sort of guy). I was diagnosed with atypical bipolar disorder a few years back (I keep dipping in and out of depression, but I don't have the manic phases), as well as general anxiety disorder. It's an uphill struggle, but certain periods are harder than others (winters are horrible). I've tried medicines myself, but have never had any effect from them (but my missus, who also suffers from general anxiety disorder and PTSD has had an incredible effect from taking Zoloft, it basically changed her life, 6 years in now, it's still working really well for her, thankfully). I've found CBT to be very helpful, as well as staying active (bicycling, playing football, walking, being outdoors), and having hobbies (which for me includes being creative, creating music or painting/drawing, works wonders as well), also eating healthy and limiting alcohol intake (obviously).

@El Guepardo - I came across a therpeutic method when I had something that sounds similar to your OCD a few years back. The therapy was hell, but it worked wonders for me. I was also stuck looping these anxious scenarios in my head, to the point where I thought I was going crazy. I became so scared of them, and fought a lot against them. Only made it worse. The thing that worked for me, which was recommended by a psychiatrist who had studied this type of OCD, was to write down all the anxious thoughts on a card you could keep in your pocket. Then as often as you could, preferably once an hour, you would read over these statements to familiarize yourself with them. A variety of exposure therapy. A little thing I found that worked for me, that I added myself, was to try to see myself as a comedian when reading out the anxious thoughts, trying to be self ironic about it, dragging them ever further to the point of the bizarre. It was horrible in the beginning, but gradually I started to get used to the sentences, and after a month or two, the anxiety for those specific things were gone. I just couldn't loop them anymore. As soon as the former intruding thought came, I just sort of went with the comedian thing, and didn't feel the fear at all. Still to this day, I can sometimes get one of those thoughts popping into my head, but it's like the comedian in me just takes over and takes out all the fear. Not saying this is some miracle cure, obviously, just sharing what worked for me.

Anyways, thanks all for being open about this stuff! You're brave men! Good too read that on here. You're not alone, fellas.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

@Dasiuk genes can actually be changed by environment. Read the marshmellow test book it is very interesting how genes change over a life time.

 

[milo]

I am on my phone and cant seem to spend pm.

To Milo am really sorry for last night and sorry if did anything that brought problems for the site.

The last week was relaxing on beach. I read matthew syeds book bounce and then book called marshmellow test which though a lot of positive in it i guess i focused on the bad as it is my son and what i might have focused most on.

Funny enough the hotel were threatning to throw us out because of my behaviour last night, but were moving onto another island tomorrow.

I am lucky to have a wife with the patience of a saint but am aware i might ruin that. I only popped into a bar to watch the spurs match but im a sociable guy and quickly made friends and stayed all night drinking. I am not supposed to drink as i need to stay as healthy as possible, it is weird how on guard you have to be the whole time.

Milo your a good guy with a kind heart thanks for looking out for me a deeply embarrased, ben.

You've nothing to be sorry for and you haven't caused any issues for the site, Ben. Take it easy mate and enjoy the rest of your holiday.