I doubt he'd have been voted onto the European Club Association if he hadn't built good relationships with other club owners and they felt he was a good representative for them.
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Daniel Levy - Chairman
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Muttley
Neil Ruddock
I don't want him having an opinion on valuing players either. That amounts to the same thing when you think about it. If I'm the head of footie ops and I'm telling him a player is worth £50m to this club, I don't care for the CEO saying he thinks he's worth £45m. It's worth no more than me as a fan putting a value on a players head having watched him on the pitch a few times.
Levy should be useful in terms of deal structuring though. I'm sure there are dials you can turn to make a deal more palatable and some history of what worked and what didn't. It's very detailed stuff.
Muttley
Neil Ruddock
That one is different though. That is not the player trading skillset. I think Levy is a probably a good guy for that role actually with his tenure and knowledge of running a club.
Glenda's Legs
Cecil Poynton
Actually what you need is for senior personnel (CEO for example) to be aligned with the negotiating strategy. I have spent years and years (before recently retiring
) negotiating contracts and the worst thing is when senior management think they can step in and sort out a deal themselves and everyone below them then spends ages after the deal trying to renegotiate it because what management have done is crap (but they have then kudos of having closed the deal). Conversely the best thing is when senior management is aligned with the negotiating strategy and supports both their negotiating team and the agreed strategy and steps in to close a deal when more seniority is needed but remains aligned with the agreed parameters. I believe Levy’s involvement now falls into the latter scenario.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Personally I doubt he has much input on that either. If the transfer team thinks a player is worth X it takes a lot of footballing knowledge to have an informed opinion otherwise.
I have seen nothing to indicate that he's inserting himself into those valuations.
Again I'm assuming that before serious negotiations start within the club there's some kind of agreement on what kind of deal would be acceptable to us as a club. I doubt we send someone to negotiate then that has to be brought back to committee to decide. By the time we're negotiating we probably know pretty much how far we'd be willing to go for that player.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
I do believe levy just gives the people he appoints a pot of money as their budget
He expects them to manage that and helps out where he can to get things over the line like I see in industry all the time (bring out the CEO for clubs meetings but behind the scenes j do all the keg work to inform them of key info they don’t know)
Muttley
Neil Ruddock
Actually what you need is for senior personnel (CEO for example) to be aligned with the negotiating strategy. I have spent years and years (before recently retiring
I believe Levy’s involvement now falls into the latter scenario.
Definitely, we used to call it having an executive sponsor on the bigger deals. The account manager is still the face of the company though in the negotiation.
My concern would be that we're not talking about a big corporate setup here. We're talking about a small team all wearing many hats. Football clubs don't create and sell products or services in the traditional way. You're sort of selling your club to the player but also buying him from the other club. It's an interesting hybrid of sales and procurement that is established.
Ron Burgess
Phil Gray
Absolutely spot on. Daniel's manipulative queen of spin Donna Marie Cullen is all over this: "Let it out we are after Tel and Tomori, it will placate the fans". "Don't say profit Daniel, say sustainable".
Lange is renown for working quietly. Like how Obobert came out of nowhere. This being loud and public stinks of Donna and Daniel trying to get leverage after being tanked by the media for not supporting the club with signings. And again all of this isn't helping the team.
It's all about helping their own status and optics so they can carry on business as usual: charging the highest prices with the lowest wage to revenue ratio.
But the optics are bad so how is this helping?
Lost Mango
Neil Ruddock
The number of people on here who think they know how Spurs operate is comical. But as long as their narrative fits their agenda ...
Baleforce
Les Bennett
Yep.
It’s as comical as the idea, that the man who has run one of the most successful clubs in Europe over the last quarter of a century, doesn’t understand football.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
It’s not
I don’t reality yet why anyone would think it
It’s like Donna Cullen has some weird way over the club
I think it’s because she has been here almost as long as levy so people just make brick up about them
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
New Motto
Ron Burgess
Phil Gray
Your second sentence makes no sense, but your saying its made up that Donna Cullen is the PR executive? It's fact. PR is spin, optics, public perception, what should be released to the press, etc, and our transfers since Lange arrived have been almost silent, now this big public display for Tomori and Tel. Its not made up brick.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
I’m saying it’s made up because there is no facts behind it and no benefit
Reminds me of the story she got Poch sacked
Daft
Ron Burgess
Phil Gray
If a board is being criticised very publicly for not supporting a club with signings, it is a benefit for the perception of said board to make a public display at trying to sign players. Unless you are suggesting Daniel Levy wasn't in Munich yesterday?
The benefit is, the PR machine can counter this perception saying "we tried to buy top players". I can list the negative coverage the spurs board have been getting recently (the overlap, most recently). Have you heard of PR?
I think that's a bit of a misconception - been a couple that were in out of the blue but noise around others and some long running sagas as well.
Trying for and then failing to sign players is not a positive look for the club, as the mood around the place since Muani Tel & Tomori is showing.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
I think what is key with these two recent rejections js the selling club use their mouthpiece reporters
Di Marzio in Italy and Pletti whatever his name is in Germany
Both clubs made it clear through them they were happy for the player to go but doubt they have said it to the player directly because that could be seen to be telling the player to leave taking away any inactive such as loyalty bonuses
Di Marzio in Italy and Pletti whatever his name is in Germany
Both clubs made it clear through them they were happy for the player to go but doubt they have said it to the player directly because that could be seen to be telling the player to leave taking away any inactive such as loyalty bonuses