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Daniel Levy - Chairman
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thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
I think the whole thing is text-book.
Crowd turns on Daniel.
After a pretty 'silence all the way' transfer policy (no leaks), suddenly we are inundated with info. Daniel determined to get Gomes, Daniel on a plane to make the deal for Tel. Where is Lange? How come he is suddenly not entrusted to get the deal done? Why are we hearing about Daniel's involvement?
Come on. Do the human math folks. Nothing especially new TBH, except this time a backfire.
Had we kept it quiet like we have been until this window, no problem, a deal we failed to do, it happens.
Again, where is our DoF? We know the answer...
Crowd turns on Daniel.
After a pretty 'silence all the way' transfer policy (no leaks), suddenly we are inundated with info. Daniel determined to get Gomes, Daniel on a plane to make the deal for Tel. Where is Lange? How come he is suddenly not entrusted to get the deal done? Why are we hearing about Daniel's involvement?
Come on. Do the human math folks. Nothing especially new TBH, except this time a backfire.
Had we kept it quiet like we have been until this window, no problem, a deal we failed to do, it happens.
Again, where is our DoF? We know the answer...
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lurker of old
Sebastien Bassong
Again, where is our DoF? We know the answer...
I guess you mean Lange rather than Munn. I have no clue what Munn is achieving, and I'm not sure anyone outside the club does.
I guess you mean Lange rather than Munn. I have no clue what Munn is achieving, and I'm not sure anyone outside the club does.
Welshspur60
Dean Marney
Does Munn even exist? Has anyone ever seen this guy?
metalgear
Andy Thompson
I think he wrote and put up the job listing for physio roles
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
We only went for Tel because a few days ago he said he wanted to leave Bayern. I thought Munn and Lange had a strategy when it comes to recruiting. Alas, it is a strategy that so far has signed zero outfield players for this window.
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We are the only team in history that signed zero players in 3 transfer windows. So we do have history.
We are actually historically champions at this.
It's Levy time!
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
You are right. I actually meant to say this window
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Not that uncommon for Levy to be involved in negotiations and that being reported.
As before things have leaked when deals are getting quite close. Same happened with Solanke and many others, just these deals didn't go through.
I'm assuming Lange is wherever he is doing his job...
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I'm guessing that strategy includes both more unknown or at least under the radar signings and more opportunistic signings of higher profile players. Would be strange to limit us to only one type of signing within a strategy.
elyid
Milija Aleksic
Everyone talks about 1 trophy in 25 years, but other than the ‘big five’ wealthy/bankrolled teams, which teams have done better? I think it’s literally just Leicester, who’ve won 2. And I think we’ve done better than Saudi Sportswashing Machine / Villa / Leeds / Everton combined?
We were supposed to have tried for Tel as part of the Kane deal, so it's not a sudden interest.
There were reports that Lange went to Munich prior to the reports of Levy going and i think most transfers that have gone through we have seen talk of his involvement in the process come out after the fact so we can safely assume he's currently playing similar roles in whatever deals we are trying to make before the window ends.
We've also had plenty of non-leaked transfer activity recently, Gallagher, Neto, Dragusin, Solanke were all in the press ahead of the moves, off the top of my head, they aren't all out of the blue.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
He's been highly rated for quite a while. Was reportedly even a concern when they signed Kane that he would end up blocking Tel's development.
The test of the strategy is imo what we do when we don't get those first choice targets. Long been saying that we need multiple names, multiple targets who are all good profile fits and all good targets (good enough now, enough potential, decent value).
Not getting our first choice targets will happen. We should still try for those, even if the club thinks it's a bit of a long shot. But not getting them needs to not be a crisis.
The time to evaluate the transfer window is when it closes. And then again some time down the line (particularly for younger players).
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Usually these deals, particularly bigger deals, are done by a team of people. Often also including several people internally at the club and external people.
How and why it would be seen as a problem that Levy gets involved in negotiations is beyond me.
Later in windows I think deals move quicker to the serious stage because of the time delay. Only natural that more stuff will leak at this stage. More people involved that can leak stuff.
If Levy thinks leaking that we're working on a deal that's not completed and that he's involved will do anything for how he's seen by fans he's dumber than pretty much anyone has given him credit for.
Muttley
Neil Ruddock
This one is double edged for me. We now need to be training our sellers that Munn is our MD and is empowered to make decisions. Yeah, we can fly the CEO in for optics but he's only signing cheques. He shouldn't be making the decisions.
You get the feeling that Levy hasn't been a great relationship builder in the marketplace, and I'm not even sure he's a great negotiator. He clearly didn't act with high integrity in the Modric and Lloris deals based on autobiographical accounts. There has to be integrity in any deal.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
What decisions do you mean?
I'm not sure there are great negotiators around these things. Levy has a reputation of being a tough negotiator, probably truth in that. I'm guessing he has good enough relationships and a good enough reputation of integrity to be a good/decent negotiator. And at a time when we're probably working on multiple potential deals including some types of deals that he has experience making why wouldn't that be used by the club?
Muttley
Neil Ruddock
Well if I took the P&L responsibility and had the title Chief Football Officer (CFO) title, I'd want to be making the decisions on football operations. The entire reason that role exists is because of our history of not being that good at it. That includes recruitment. Deal structuring can have inputs from many people, but you only need one person leading the engagement and that shouldn't be the CEO even if present.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I'm assume that by the time we enter into an actual negotiation there's some common understanding between the people in charge of these things inside the club. What kind of money we'd be willing to pay, in what kind of structure, wages, bonuses etc. What does it matter who does or leads the actual negotiations? Whoever is available and is more likely to get us the deal we want would be my pick.
The decisions I don't want Levy anywhere near is who we should try to sign in the first place. And there's nothing to indicate he's making those decisions.