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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Finney Is Back said:
He is very much the minor partner in the ownership. Lewis has always been happy with him because his investment in THFC has grown at a good rate. If that investment growth stalls or even reverses then maybe he'll no longer be happy.

I'm hoping that at some point the beneficiaries of Lewis' trust realise that for a yearly salary of £3m plus they could actually attract real talent.

The real talent coming in would perhaps also concentrate on real talent beneath them and we'd start to see the best football people being headhunted and doing great things at our club.
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Go on, let's hear them...
 
Finney Is Back said:
Ensured that Brighton created and maintained a coherent, well run, recruitment structure with great succession planning.
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Let's take that as given.as.im feeling charitable.

Do you think that doing so at Brighton's level of expectations is the same as doing so at ours?

For example, is successfully running a newsagent the same as successfully running M&S?
 
scaramanga said:
Let's take that as given.as.im feeling charitable.

Do you think that doing so at Brighton's level of expectations is the same as doing so at ours?

For example, is successfully running a newsagent the same as successfully running M&S?
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I'm not sure what their expectations are compared to ours? Seems to me that both clubs aim is to qualify for Europa League/Conference League football?

It should be easier to put together a good recruitment structure when you have more money to spend. Of course that does rely on having a CEO that actually values spending money on things like that in the first place.
 
Finney Is Back said:
I'm not sure what their expectations are compared to ours? Seems to me that both clubs aim is to qualify for Europa League/Conference League football?

It should be easier to put together a good recruitment structure when you have more money to spend. Of course that does rely on having a CEO that actually values spending money on things like that in the first place.
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It's not easier when you have higher expectations.

At Spurs, those recruited need to get us into the CL. At Brighton they need to keep them in the PL with the odd cup run and the odd qualification for the made up Euro thingy.

So does successfully running a newsagent mean one could successfully run M&S?
 
scaramanga said:
Let's take that as given.as.im feeling charitable.

Do you think that doing so at Brighton's level of expectations is the same as doing so at ours?

For example, is successfully running a newsagent the same as successfully running M&S?
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I think you're creating a strawman argument there.

The things that @Finney Is Back is suggesting should be a pre requisite of running any elite sporting organization whatever it's size. City, Liverpool, Arsenal have all implemented similar systems over the years.

I cant argue that DL doesn't care about and loves this club or that he has very astutely increased its financial value. But those elements laid out above don't appear to have been put on place until very recently with Paratici.

The sad thing is, DL started well 20 years ago by appointing Arnesen as a DoF. But unfortunately he has shifted too often between managers who want different systems rather than having faith in the Dof structure or not wanted to invest in the playing staff at key moments in the squad development. In the end how well we do is overly reliant on who is the football manager rather than them being part of the jigsaw.
 
Robspur12 said:
I think you're creating a strawman argument there.

The things that @Finney Is Back is suggesting should be a pre requisite of running any elite sporting organization whatever it's size. City, Liverpool, Arsenal have all implemented similar systems over the years.

I cant argue that DL doesn't care about and loves this club or that he has very astutely increased its financial value. But those elements laid out above don't appear to have been put on place until very recently with Paratici.

The sad thing is, DL started well 20 years ago by appointing Arnesen as a DoF. But unfortunately he has shifted too often between managers who want different systems rather than having faith in the Dof structure or not wanted to invest in the playing staff at key moments in the squad development.
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TBF levy was the first modern guy to implement a DOF model
Sugar did it as well but not in the same way
 
Robspur12 said:
I think you're creating a strawman argument there.

The things that @Finney Is Back is suggesting should be a pre requisite of running any elite sporting organization whatever it's size. City, Liverpool, Arsenal have all implemented similar systems over the years.

I cant argue that DL doesn't care about and loves this club or that he has very astutely increased its financial value. But those elements laid out above don't appear to have been put on place until very recently with Paratici.

The sad thing is, DL started well 20 years ago by appointing Arnesen as a DoF. But unfortunately he has shifted too often between managers who want different systems rather than having faith in the Dof structure or not wanted to invest in the playing staff at key moments in the squad development.
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It's only a straw man argument if you believe that scale and targets are irrelevant when comparing two businesses.

I believe that recruiting to do what we need (especially given that we are not doped by dirty oil money) is far more difficult than recruiting to do what Brighton need.
 
scaramanga said:
So if they're irrelevant, the person recruiting for a newsagent should easily be able to run the recruitment for M&S, right?
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Tbf, there is a much bigger difference in scale etc between M&S and a local newsagent than there is between THFC and Brighton FC: both clubs probably earned more than most of Serie A and La Liga last financial year for a start. Anyone in the PL is levels above most leagues because of the the TV money and PL tights sold abroad and redistributed alone.

If people on here (you included) are seemingly happy to employ a coach from Bournemouth then we can compare the football management operations of THFC and Brighton..
 
scaramanga said:
So if they're irrelevant, the person recruiting for a newsagent should easily be able to run the recruitment for M&S, right?
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No obviously the scale comes into it and you're just using an extreme comparison that actually doesn't translate well to Finney'point. But the following "well run, recruitment structure with great succession planning," are needed in any sporting organization irrespective of size. It's hard to argue that we have got it right at Spurs where the success is almost completely down to whichever manager is in charge at the time.
 
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glorygloryeze said:
Tbf, there is a much bigger difference in scale etc between M&S and a local newsagent than there is between THFC and Brighton FC: both clubs probably earned more than most of Serie A and La Liga last financial year for a start. Anyone in the PL is levels above most leagues because of the the TV money and PL tights sold abroad and redistributed alone.

If people on here (you included) are seemingly happy to employ a coach from Bournemouth then we can compare the football management operations of THFC and Brighton..
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I'm happy to employ him until the summer to get us out of the brick. He'd have to prove a lot to get a long term contract here.

It is an obvious exaggeration, but that's to prove the point. It is obviously more difficult to do the job when scale and ambition increases. Just like being a successful manager in Scotland doesn't mean those skills will translate into grown up football.
 
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