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Cristian Romero

Easy to type words on social media - I'd rather see him stand up and be counted on the pitch
He does to be fair. Up at Saudi Sportswashing Machine, he got the two goals. Him and VdV were crucial, in many respects as it turns out, to us winning the EL. Even last night at the end, there was a 50:50 (in fact, might have been more in the Bournemouth player's favour) and he not only won that tackle but won the next one right after. Romero, when he's on the pitch, is 110% committed whatever else you think of him.

And, in my view, despite everyone having a role to play in our demise (fans, players, club owners), he and his team mates are the ones getting stick week after week, home and away, by fans. At some point, you're going to react to that. He's clearly speaking for many of (or all of) the squad given that many have seemingly liked his post.
 
Easy to type words on social media - I'd rather see him stand up and be counted on the pitch
Consistently does that imo. One of the first to throw himself into physical duels, blocks etc. One of the players who takes the most responsibility on the ball even knowing that mistakes will happen and the blame will be on him. Tries to get forward, influence games, be creative.

Making mistakes is to me very far from not standing up and being counted.
 
He does to be fair. Up at Saudi Sportswashing Machine, he got the two goals. Even last night at the end, there was a 50:50 (in fact, might have been more in the Bournemouth player's favour) and he not only won that tackle but won the next one right after. Romero, when he's on the pitch, is 110% committed whatever else you think of him.

And, in my view, despite everyone having a role to play in our demise (fans, players, club owners), he and his team mates are the ones getting stick week after week, home and away, by fans. At some point, you're going to react to that. He's clearly speaking for many of (or all of) the squad given that many have seemingly liked his post.

Great post. When we were 2-1 down last night you could tell the guys that were leading the fight back and Romero was top of the list. VDV and Porro were shoulder to shoulder with him.

I'd have more Romero's at my club.
 
Consistently does that imo. One of the first to throw himself into physical duels, blocks etc. One of the players who takes the most responsibility on the ball even knowing that mistakes will happen and the blame will be on him. Tries to get forward, influence games, be creative.

Making mistakes is to me very far from not standing up and being counted.

In a poor run of form currently gifting multiple chances a game imv
 
A poor run of form is a result of not standing up and being counted?

I want him to sort his own form out along with the rest of the players who are repeatedly failing at their own basic requirements before issuing statements trying to deflect blame elsewhere - he got himself sent off for stupidity, he gives away multiple chances every game, they fudge up routine aspects of play practically every minute of every game - talk is cheap, talk won't get us out of this situation and blaming mystery unidentifiable figures doesn't achieve anything.
 
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I want him to sort his own form out along with the rest of the players who are repeatedly failing at their own basic requirements before issuing statements trying to deflect blame elsewhere - he got himself sent off for stupidity, he gives away multiple chances every game, they fudge up routine aspects of play practically every minute of every game - talk is cheap, talk won't get us out of this situation and blaming mystery unidentifiable figures doesn't achieve anything.

While I agree he needs to up his consistency, I don't think the players agree with what they are being asked to do.

Perhaps he doesn't agree that sitting on the 6 yard line and lettting top level footballers pot shot your keeper from 18-22 yards is a viable tactic, maybe he doesn't understand why we don't a tactic to get ball from back to front that isn't him picking a perfect pass, or an almighty hoof?

Maybe he doesn't understand why the club never defends it's players or fights back against the refs? Romero himself has got at least 2 yellow cards for talking/complaing to ref this season, he's the fudging captain, he's allowed to do that, anyone else see another club captain get booked for that? I see VVD telling refs fudge off all the time, nothing?
 
While I agree he needs to up his consistency, I don't think the players agree with what they are being asked to do.

Perhaps he doesn't agree that sitting on the 6 yard line and lettting top level footballers pot shot your keeper from 18-22 yards is a viable tactic, maybe he doesn't understand why we don't a tactic to get ball from back to front that isn't him picking a perfect pass, or an almighty hoof?

Maybe he doesn't understand why the club never defends it's players or fights back against the refs? Romero himself has got at least 2 yellow cards for talking/complaing to ref this season, he's the fudging captain, he's allowed to do that, anyone else see another club captain get booked for that? I see VVD telling refs fudge off all the time, nothing?
I think it's very likely that how we are underperfoming as a team, and that being related to the tactical approach, is a reason for poor form from individuals. At the very least a contributing factors.

We're so frequently putting players in tough situations on the ball with limited passing options. Mistakes will happen. Drops in form will result.
 
While I agree he needs to up his consistency, I don't think the players agree with what they are being asked to do.

Perhaps he doesn't agree that sitting on the 6 yard line and lettting top level footballers pot shot your keeper from 18-22 yards is a viable tactic, maybe he doesn't understand why we don't a tactic to get ball from back to front that isn't him picking a perfect pass, or an almighty hoof?

Maybe he doesn't understand why the club never defends it's players or fights back against the refs? Romero himself has got at least 2 yellow cards for talking/complaing to ref this season, he's the fudging captain, he's allowed to do that, anyone else see another club captain get booked for that? I see VVD telling refs fudge off all the time, nothing?

When I think back to the Conte, Ange and Frank defensive system I would say that this one is probably most agreeable for Romero.

I reckon he could enjoy play right on a 3 but prefers to be a centre half in the back four. Ange's system was setup for VDV, not Romero, He doesn't want to be defending on the half way line and sprinting back. I appreciate it's not the results we want but Romero would have enjoyed the way Frank is playing into his strengths. He's fully utilising those ball skills he has and allowing him the freedom to drive us forward. I just hope Frank can get more pieces working like this, although Romero doesn't need to rein some of it in. He's picking up silly yellows as you say.
 
Easy to type words on social media - I'd rather see him stand up and be counted on the pitch
What I observe with Romero is his 'desperation' on the pitch is often driven by the desperation of our situation.

He takes things into his own hands, starts making his own decisions, taking risks as he sees fit.

That is fundamentally born out of caring and wanting to make a change, force a change as he believes he is powerful enough to do that.

Of course, that can go wrong, it can even be against what the manager wants and can definitely come across as reckless.
But I think it comes from the heart.
 
What I observe with Romero is his 'desperation' on the pitch is often driven by the desperation of our situation.

He takes things into his own hands, starts making his own decisions, taking risks as he sees fit.

That is fundamentally born out of caring and wanting to make a change, force a change as he believes he is powerful enough to do that.

Of course, that can go wrong, it can even be against what the manager wants and can definitely come across as reckless.
But I think it comes from the heart.
Great post and great observation. You often see when we're losing that Romero ends up in very attacking positions at times. He's desperate not to lose. The lad is a World Cup winner FFS...the temperament is questionable, the decision making is questionable. The talent and the commitment are not.
 
When I think back to the Conte, Ange and Frank defensive system I would say that this one is probably most agreeable for Romero.

I reckon he could enjoy play right on a 3 but prefers to be a centre half in the back four. Ange's system was setup for VDV, not Romero, He doesn't want to be defending on the half way line and sprinting back. I appreciate it's not the results we want but Romero would have enjoyed the way Frank is playing into his strengths. He's fully utilising those ball skills he has and allowing him the freedom to drive us forward. I just hope Frank can get more pieces working like this, although Romero doesn't need to rein some of it in. He's picking up silly yellows as you say.

Yes but with limits

- Romero has passing ability, like VDV has carrying ability, hence any smart coach could figure out a way to create more space (by width/movement) to allow them to leverage that more.
- Romero is amazing stepping out and killing attacks, we play so much brick, why not try 3atb and having step out, kill attacks earlier (what he did in Italy)

And no defenders like being exposed, either in Ange's high line or Franks "let people take low percentage shots"
 
While I agree he needs to up his consistency, I don't think the players agree with what they are being asked to do.

Perhaps he doesn't agree that sitting on the 6 yard line and lettting top level footballers pot shot your keeper from 18-22 yards is a viable tactic, maybe he doesn't understand why we don't a tactic to get ball from back to front that isn't him picking a perfect pass, or an almighty hoof?

Maybe he doesn't understand why the club never defends it's players or fights back against the refs? Romero himself has got at least 2 yellow cards for talking/complaing to ref this season, he's the fudging captain, he's allowed to do that, anyone else see another club captain get booked for that? I see VVD telling refs fudge off all the time, nothing?

If the players not agreeing with what they are being asked to do is a factor in performance rather than them just being inconsistent due to age/ability then that's a must worse black mark against.
 
If the players not agreeing with what they are being asked to do is a factor in performance rather than them just being inconsistent due to age/ability then that's a must worse black mark against.

don't agree, don't understand, the manager isn't getting the idea across.

When you take over a team (in corporate or football) at a high performance level, you have two choices, 1/fire everyone and bring in your own people, 2/Convince existing team of your vision and get their buy in.

In football unfortunately you can't just get rid of the squad every time you change the manager, so it's option 2, and it's on the manager to make that work.
 
If the players not agreeing with what they are being asked to do is a factor in performance rather than them just being inconsistent due to age/ability then that's a must worse black mark against.
Players are going to have an opinion on how the game should be played. Same as all of us. Sometimes they will be asked to do things that they think are daft. They'll do them, they'll try to do them to the best of their ability but they're operating at a level where even the slightest level of doubt can be the difference between winning and not winning.

They're human and humans react well to a good environment and something they can believe in. It doesn't look like we're providing either at the moment.

That's the magic of good man managers - to get players and a team on board with what they want.
 
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