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Cristian Romero

harr1984 said:
I don't recall anyone having issues with a lot of Spurs captains? And in regards to Son he represented Spurs fantastically, but there are many facets to being a captain. Romero can't even perform the most simple of duties, I really don't know what you're even debating - as if we should just not bat our eyelids at our captain fudging off to his homeland at this time....
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You and many fans think Spurs should be the number one thing in his life and he’s there to watch. That would be nice. For him and many Argentinian’s, representing his country is the most important thing, especially at a World Cup. In consultation with the club, he decided to go home to get treatment, as he’s done before. Had it not been for his hometown club putting it out there, we’d never have even known.

People who think he’s let down his teammates by not being there don’t realise that the ones he might actually be able to impact with his presence are probably some of his good friends and understand his position. Some of whom would probably choose to do exactly the same thing in his situation.

It’s a non-story. Or the reaction to it is potentially a massive fudging distraction that the club just doesn’t need right now.
 
tommysvr said:
You and many fans think Spurs should be the number one thing in his life and he’s there to watch. That would be nice. For him and many Argentinian’s, representing his country is the most important thing, especially at a World Cup. In consultation with the club, he decided to go home to get treatment, as he’s done before. Had it not been for his hometown club putting it out there, we’d never have even known.

People who think he’s let down his teammates by not being there don’t realise that the ones he might actually be able to impact with his presence are probably some of his good friends and understand his position. Some of whom would probably choose to do exactly the same thing in his situation.

It’s a non-story. Or the reaction to it is potentially a massive fudging distraction that the club just doesn’t need right now.
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This is where I am with it. I dont buy there is some mythical impact of him being present. And look, I have been a fan, but playing wise he has been poor, so for balance im not blindly backing him up. But like you, its a non story, he is also travelling back for treatment of which there have been photos, its often the case that players go back to Dr's and specialists they know and trust, given its a WC year there is more at play for that
 
harr1984 said:
You seem to be missing the point - No one was suggesting he had run off without permission. The fact is as usual the captain who is paid handsomely by his club is prioritising his national team ahead of the clubs most important game for years.

It's rehab not keyhole surgery. He could and would have continued his rehab here for a few more days before leaving to Argentina after this game if he wanted but no - as usual he can't wait to run off back to Argentina. Captains usually go above and beyond, the saddest thing there is no surprise whatsoever he has chosen to do this....
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If I was Romero, in my heart of hearts I would know this was wrong...I would carry a unshakeable unease about it.

If he doesn't feel like that...it tells us all we need to know.

It's that simple.
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
This is where I am with it. I dont buy there is some mythical impact of him being present. And look, I have been a fan, but playing wise he has been poor, so for balance im not blindly backing him up. But like you, its a non story, he is also travelling back for treatment of which there have been photos, its often the case that players go back to Dr's and specialists they know and trust, given its a WC year there is more at play for that
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I haven't seen a single person claim Romero being there is going to make us more likely to win tomorrow? It's just a standard obligation of being captain, it's that simple and it's just another example to add to the list of why he's been a poor captain.

As for it being a non story, major Spurs ex players seem not think so who you'd think have an idea of what the role of a captain at this club should be. It's just poor form from our 'leader', simple as that....
 
tommysvr said:
There were loads of people, including @harr1984 who were saying he's not captain material: https://www.glory-glory.co.uk/threads/son-heung-min.7925/page-420#post-1890862

Seems like no one can be captain of Tottenham. Impossible standards.

fudge me I can't wait until Monday and this whole dumb story goes away.
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I wasn’t against it before it happened as I thought it might improve his discipline. Not the case unfortunately, he’s far too reckless to be a captain.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
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Tottenham captain Cristian Romero has returned to Argentina as part of pre-planned rehabilitation scheduled weeks ago and is not set to watch his boyhood team there, football.london understands.

Spurs fans have been in uproar over reports that the centre-back would not be present at the do-or-die match against Everton on Sunday which will decide whether the north London club remain in the Premier League next season. There had also been suggestions that Romero would instead be at his first club Belgrano's Primera Division final against River Plate on Sunday.

However, it is understood that the defender will not be attending that game in Argentina and instead is going through a set rehabilitation plan that has been in place for weeks for his knee injury suffered against Sunderland last month.

Romero had the option to return immediately to his homeland and begin his rehabilitation under the supervision of the Argentina national team medical staff, who are recognised among the leading specialists in the world for this type of recovery, but initially turned that down.

The 28-year-old chose to remain in London for as long as possible in order to stay close to his team-mates and continue supporting the club throughout a crucial period of the season and was often in team meetings and speaking daily with boss Roberto De Zerbiabout the situation.

In the meantime, members of the Argentina national team medical staff instead travelled to London to work closely with him on a daily basis, alongside Spurs' medical department, to oversee the first phase of his rehabilitation. The second phase, which has involved his trip to Argentina this week, is understood to have always been part of the recovery plan with Romero to complete the final stage of his rehabilitation there before continuing his work at the AFA training centre.

Romero's agent Ciro Palermo told football.london: "Any suggestion that the trip was made for the purpose of attending football matches is entirely inaccurate. More than that, it is a completely fabricated narrative being circulated by people who are unaware of the facts and have no knowledge of the rehabilitation plan that has been in place for weeks.

"Cristian's focus is, and has always been, on recovering as strongly as possible, preparing for the World Cup, and supporting Tottenham Hotspur in every way he can. His commitment to the club, his team-mates and the supporters has been evident throughout his time at Tottenham and remains unchanged."
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I like Ally as a writer, he is far more talented than Football London allow him to be, but stuff like this is poor journalism IMO. His job is not just to allow the agent to put out self serving PR quotes. A journalist’s job is to challenge that with questions from the opposing viewpoint to test the substance of what’s being said.
 
DeanoAustin said:
I like Ally as a writer, he is far more talented than Football London allow him to be, but stuff like this is poor journalism IMO. His job is not just to allow the agent to put out self serving PR quotes. A journalist’s job is to challenge that with questions from the opposing viewpoint to test the substance of what’s being said.
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In fairness though, there are two sides to a story and one side that fans rarely care about unless it serves their purpose.

I actually think reaching out to the agent and asking the question shows more talent than others and I am not Gold fan.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
If I was Romero, in my heart of hearts I would know this was wrong...I would carry a unshakeable unease about it.

If he doesn't feel like that...it tells us all we need to know.

It's that simple.
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He won’t. It’s so obvious that Romero cares about Romero and Argentina, in that order. End of. It’s probably better now he’s not around, but as a team mate and captain for us, he’s been an unreliable disgrace this season.
 
tommysvr said:
You and many fans think Spurs should be the number one thing in his life and he’s there to watch. That would be nice. For him and many Argentinian’s, representing his country is the most important thing, especially at a World Cup. In consultation with the club, he decided to go home to get treatment, as he’s done before. Had it not been for his hometown club putting it out there, we’d never have even known.

People who think he’s let down his teammates by not being there don’t realise that the ones he might actually be able to impact with his presence are probably some of his good friends and understand his position. Some of whom would probably choose to do exactly the same thing in his situation.

It’s a non-story. Or the reaction to it is potentially a massive fudging distraction that the club just doesn’t need right now.
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He’s not the only player representing Argentina or any other nation they qualified at the World Cup. I get some players are very proud to represent their country, but you have to balance your responsibilities at club level, especially as a club captain! At the very least he should be giving us a 50/50 split in terms of his effort and output. It’s never been anywhere near that for him, he prioritises getting fit for Argentina above us.

Could you imagine Son doing this?
 
harr1984 said:
I haven't seen a single person claim Romero being there is going to make us more likely to win tomorrow? It's just a standard obligation of being captain, it's that simple and it's just another example to add to the list of why he's been a poor captain.

As for it being a non story, major Spurs ex players seem not think so who you'd think have an idea of what the role of a captain at this club should be. It's just poor form from our 'leader', simple as that....
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Absolutely. No one thinks Romero being there will be the difference between winning and losing. That’s not what it’s about. It’s about standards. It’s about looking united. It’s about always doing the right thing because, to quote Al Pacino, those inches that make the difference are all around us and you have to grab every one of them because when you put them all together, that’s the difference between winning and losing.

It’s why Ferguson, for example, insisted on players presenting themselves properly when representing the club. Did wearing a suit win Man U games? No, but it presented an image that this was a serious, professional organisation.

It’s why Roy Keane goes nuts at players for laughing and joking with each other when they should be focussed on winning.

Our club has allowed too much to slide for too long. This is just another one of those little things that aren’t a problem in themselves but they are a symptom of a bigger issue. A lack of standards. A lack of willingness to go that extra mile.

Sometimes when you’re looking at the wallpaper for so long, you don’t notice it peeling around the edges. Ours has been peeling off for years.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
In fairness though, there are two sides to a story and one side that fans rarely care about unless it serves their purpose.

I actually think reaching out to the agent and asking the question shows more talent than others and I am not Gold fan.
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It is absolutely right that he asks the question because the other side of the story deserves to be heard. But it also can’t go unchecked because then it’s just PR.

Everyone will have justification for doing the things they’ll do. No way Romero thought “I’m gonna be a clam and go to Argentina.” However, that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been a clam for going to Argentina and it’s on journalists like Gold to ask the right questions to establish that.
 
DeanoAustin said:
It is absolutely right that he asks the question because the other side of the story deserves to be heard. But it also can’t go unchecked because then it’s just PR.

Everyone will have justification for doing the things they’ll do. No way Romero thought “I’m gonna be a clam and go to Argentina.” However, that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been a clam for going to Argentina and it’s on journalists like Gold to ask the right questions to establish that.
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Thats strong, going to Argentina to undertake treatment and prepare for the WC, all with the approval of the club, so there must be a proffesional reason, logic dictates that as he is still an employee of the club.

People have the hump because he hasnt stayed in like a monk and gone to see his original club play and then comes made up rhetorics
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
But there has to be a levelm9f applied working experience with a degree. Otherwise everyone leaving uni would be a CEO
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LOL - I can already hear the Lange type narratives about Ben. Nice guy, very analytical but way too soft to be a CEO. Wouldn't want him in the negotiation room. Not bad at building databases of players and buying youngsters but is not a leader. Wasn't even a captain when he was a player.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Thats strong, going to Argentina to undertake treatment and prepare for the WC, all with the approval of the club, so there must be a proffesional reason, logic dictates that as he is still an employee of the club.

People have the hump because he hasnt stayed in like a monk and gone to see his original club play and then comes made up rhetorics
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It is strong but I believe it. He’s part of a team and a squad and he’s fudged off rather than supporting the team mates he leads in the most important game in the clubs recent history.

It’s beyond unacceptable for me but, at this point, we have bigger things to worry about than Cristian Romero.

There is no way an arrangement couldn’t have been made for him to continue his rehab in London this week. That’s just not credible.

An immensely talented player, done some great things for us but a fudging awful captain and leader.
 
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