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Grays_1890 said:
Let's give them all a pass then ey
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Definitely not - go after them all. But I’ll not hold my breath on Amazon and Google being investigated.

Thousands of businesses would have gone under without the furlough scheme. If some abused it then deal with them. We couldn’t have done without it and it’s excellent to see it being brought in again for areas currently subject to restrictions.

It’ll certainly be needed for the more widespread lockdown which is hurting towards us at some speed now.
 
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Mikey10 said:
Definitely not - go after them all. But I’ll not hold my breath on Amazon and Google being investigated.

Thousands of businesses would have gone under without the furlough scheme. If some abused it then deal with them. We couldn’t have done without it and it’s excellent to see it being bought in again for areas currently subject to restrictions.

It’ll certainly be needed for the more widespread lockdown which is hurting towards us at some speed now.
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Point is whoever abused if is a cun7
 
I genuinely qualified for a furlough payment as was on payroll for my own (currently deliberately inactive) service company. Had a chat with the wife about it as a director and she was utterly appalled it has even crossed my mind to consider it lol. Working class muppets.

You may recall that the government were actively encouraging businesses to take it up- so it’s not completely cut and dry.

I didnt in the end- somewhere between not being that lucrative v hassle + good citizenship. My accountant was also making unsupportive noises not that it got to that point haha.

Honestly, had there been more free money on offer the balance would have switched to taking the money.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Yet lock down 90% of the world who are perfectly healthy so that when they come back out they are jobless, prospect less and have a substantial hit to their mental health, seems unfair to me
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seems like the who are trying to distance themselves.

considering the WHO advice up till this year wasn’t lockdowns the whole process has been weird
 
Grays_1890 said:
Yet lock down 90% of the world who are perfectly healthy so that when they come back out they are jobless, prospect less and have a substantial hit to their mental health, seems unfair to me
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Legohamster said:
seems like the who are trying to distance themselves.

considering the WHO advice up till this year wasn’t lockdowns the whole process has been weird
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The primary WHO advice since February has been ‘Test, test, test.’ Not their fault that, instead, we’ve had ‘F.uck up, f.uck up, f.uck up’ in the U.K.
 
Nothing to worry about there Boris, just exponential growth in daily cases. Keep calm and carry on..the death rate is creeping as well but from what I’ve seen in Australia the death rate lags behind by a couple of weeks.

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Grays_1890 said:
Yet lock down 90% of the world who are perfectly healthy so that when they come back out they are jobless, prospect less and have a substantial hit to their mental health, seems unfair to me
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It shows a deeper problem though, there was no built in resilience to an expected threat, just how in control of the economy are we if we can’t turn it off for a few months without fudging everyone over.

It’s like having a nuclear reactor that you can never shutdown for maintenance, it just runs and runs until the inevitable meltdown.
 
Baleforce said:
It shows a deeper problem though, there was no built in resilience to an expected threat, just how in control of the economy are we if we can’t turn it off for a few months without fudging everyone over.

It’s like having a nuclear reactor that you can never shutdown for maintenance, it just runs and runs until the inevitable meltdown.
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Economies aren't monolithic like a reactor.

Parts (businesses) are breaking down all the time and being replaced by newer, more efficient parts. If anything, it's the attempts to keep an economy whole in harder times that has us holding onto the older, worn parts that damages our ability to come through.
 
scaramanga said:
Economies aren't monolithic like a reactor.

Parts (businesses) are breaking down all the time and being replaced by newer, more efficient parts. If anything, it's the attempts to keep an economy whole in harder times that has us holding onto the older, worn parts that damages our ability to come through.
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I think the main thing hurting the economy is people giving a brick about human suffering.

If people would just ignore human suffering the economy would be booming like all kinds of awesome.
 
braineclipse said:
I think the main thing hurting the economy is people giving a brick about human suffering.

If people would just ignore human suffering the economy would be booming like all kinds of awesome.
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Or be protect those suffering or with potential to suffer better and a low those with absolutely no risk to continue guilt free.

I did an analysis this morning. We have made 20 people aged 21-35 redundant since March with no way around it, 20 people healthy enough and in an age range that says Covid will not affect them. I don't see the fairness there, one day you are at work with the world at your feet, 6 months later yours worlds upside down, why? Because you are a fit and healthy 26 year old that wants to work? Its ridiculous and its been ridiculously managed. People fit and healthy enough to work risk free should be able to and do so guilt free.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Or be protect those suffering or with potential to suffer better and a low those with absolutely no risk to continue guilt free.

I did an analysis this morning. We have made 20 people aged 21-35 redundant since March with no way around it, 20 people healthy enough and in an age range that says Covid will not affect them. I don't see the fairness there, one day you are at work with the world at your feet, 6 months later yours worlds upside down, why? Because you are a fit and healthy 26 year old that wants to work? Its ridiculous and its been ridiculously managed. People fit and healthy enough to work risk free should be able to and do so guilt free.
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Why isn't the economy able to stand up to six or so months of reduced activity? Because it's geared to be used and abused and squeezed to the nth degree by those most wealthy.

Now it's gone tits up the money men and landlords of the world are bricking themselves, but at least they're not facing homelessness.
 
nayenezgani said:
Why isn't the economy able to stand up to six or so months of reduced activity? Because it's geared to be used and abused and squeezed to the nth degree by those most wealthy.

Now it's gone tits up the money men and landlords of the world are bricking themselves, but at least they're not facing homelessness.
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Utter generalisation and one thats frankly offensive to those running an SME
 
Grays_1890 said:
Or be protect those suffering or with potential to suffer better and a low those with absolutely no risk to continue guilt free.

I did an analysis this morning. We have made 20 people aged 21-35 redundant since March with no way around it, 20 people healthy enough and in an age range that says Covid will not affect them. I don't see the fairness there, one day you are at work with the world at your feet, 6 months later yours worlds upside down, why? Because you are a fit and healthy 26 year old that wants to work? Its ridiculous and its been ridiculously managed. People fit and healthy enough to work risk free should be able to and do so guilt free.
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