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scaramanga said:
I still think that sets a dangerous precedent.

That way the Telegraph or any other paper with an agenda can make up anything similarly tenuous and the public perception will always be one of guilt.
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You play the cards you're dealt IMO. Anyway, we're past that now so the point is academic.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’d say he is less of a know it all and more of a wannabe revolutionary
He focussed massively on the failing I his view of our current governmental structure and practices
it’s why IMO she is hated by the old school rude boys as that why he wants to change, for the benefit of the normal people
I’ve seen it first hand in the civil service and none of that has been reported as it’s things the tax payer would have expected to be in place anyway
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I also like the premise of shaking up Whitehall. He isn't the first, but he can possibly get more done as he's able to not play by the existing rules. It takes more than one person though. These are big institutions, you have to take people with you as well. Explain the logic, outline the changes etc. No doubt he is a wannabe revolutionary. Kind of reminds me of people in their teens and 20s, which is endearing. We should question the status quo, we should make improvements, especially to the civil service. New labour also had quite revolutionary ideas on this, and did make changes. But a lot more should be done.
 
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That qualification belonged to a particular set of advice in a different document. This one was more recent and unqualified, with a clear statement on primary residence.
 
Anti-porn filters stop Dominic Cummings trending on Twitter

Twitter’s anti-porn filters have blocked Dominic Cummings’ name despite Boris Johnson’s chief adviser dominating British political news for almost a week, the Guardian can reveal.

As a result of the filtering, trending topics over the past five days have instead included a variety of misspellings of his name, including #cummnings, #dominiccummigs and #sackcummimgs, as well as his first name on its own, the hashtag #sackdom, and the place names Durham, County Durham and Barnard Castle.

The filter also affects suggested hashtags, meaning users who tried to type #dominiccummings were instead presented with one of the misspelled variations to auto-complete, helping them trend instead.

This sort of accidental filtering has gained a name in computer science: the Sclamhorpe problem, so-called because of the Lincolnshire town’s regular issues with such censorship.
Bizarrely, the shortened hashtag #cumgate has also trended, since the first word of the sentence is not included in Twitter’s filter list, apparently in an attempt to avoid the Sclamhorpe problem applying too broadly – for instance, by blocking words such as “scum”, “cumbersome” or “cumulative”.
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SpurMeUp said:
Living with Children does not affect his ability to exercise locally does it? The guidelines are very clear on that. You should use green space local to you and not drive. So technically he has breached guidelines. 'Please don't simply ignore this because it doesn't suit your agenda'
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But by his account he wasn't driving to a spot to exercise - he was driving to test that he was capable of doing the full journey home in order to return to work. Which as far as I know isn't really covered by the guidelines one way or another.

(Whether or not you believe that account is a different point - I'm sure many won't. Indeed I don't think I do, given that he took his wife and child with him. Also seems a bit suspicious that his kid allegedly needed to pee on that short trip, but not on the massive trip from London to Durham!)
 
elltrev said:
But by his account he wasn't driving to a spot to exercise - he was driving to test that he was capable of doing the full journey home in order to return to work. Which as far as I know isn't really covered by the guidelines one way or another.

(Whether or not you believe that account is a different point - I'm sure many won't. Indeed I don't think I do, given that he took his wife and child with him. Also seems a bit suspicious that his kid allegedly needed to pee on that short trip, but not on the massive trip from London to Durham!)
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And of course it’s been reported he did 60 miles in 30 minutes...
 
SpurMeUp said:
I also like the premise of shaking up Whitehall. He isn't the first, but he can possibly get more done as he's able to not play by the existing rules. It takes more than one person though. These are big institutions, you have to take people with you as well. Explain the logic, outline the changes etc. No doubt he is a wannabe revolutionary. Kind of reminds me of people in their teens and 20s, which is endearing. We should question the status quo, we should make improvements, especially to the civil service. New labour also had quite revolutionary ideas on this, and did make changes. But a lot more should be done.
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Trust me - I’m working for the civil service and it’s a beast that needs a rocket rather than a take you with me approach

it’s why I’ve listened more now than ever on the political front as I’m not by nature bothered by it all. I’ve always voted for whose in power as I’ve never been in a negative position driven by a government yet!!!

but as I say when I sit in meetings and they mention his name and they wince it’s because their finally scared they will be held to account and it’s a very very good thing

the issue though with the civil service is the pay is crap so you get a certain type of person

the revolution there is fix the pay and you can have actually have less people do more work and not be out of pocket
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Trust me - I’m working for the civil service and it’s a hunk of burning love that needs a rocket rather than a take you with me approach

it’s why I’ve listened more now than ever on the political front as I’m not by nature bothered by it all. I’ve always voted for whose in power as I’ve never been in a negative position driven by a government yet!!!

but as I say when I sit in meetings and they mention his name and they wince it’s because their finally scared they will be held to account and it’s a very very good thing

the issue though with the civil service is the pay is crap so you get a certain type of person

the revolution there is fix the pay and you can have actually have less people do more work and not be out of pocket
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Likewise. Have some dealings with them and see time again how tax payers money is, to quote Scara, spaffed up the wall.

Had an idea that civil servants pensions should be linked to their performance. Performance is harder to measure it’s not just profit (or savings) but value to people. But it could be done quite easily.

If you don’t take people with you, they will find ways to undermine you.


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elltrev said:
But by his account he wasn't driving to a spot to exercise - he was driving to test that he was capable of doing the full journey home in order to return to work. Which as far as I know isn't really covered by the guidelines one way or another.

(Whether or not you believe that account is a different point - I'm sure many won't. Indeed I don't think I do, given that he took his wife and child with him. Also seems a bit suspicious that his kid allegedly needed to pee on that short trip, but not on the massive trip from London to Durham!)
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Seems to me youre making a convincing case that he was in breach. Technically the guidelines are clear, stay home don’t travel for whatever reason. Eye test or any other spurious nonsense.


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What is the view of football now allowing contact training which is the next stage of returning to the game returning soon. This includes as reported on the news tackling and set piece practise which breaks all social distancing laws and guidelines for sport, it can't be viewed as essential work and although it is work and they can't "work from home" is it not flying in the face of what people are going through for footballers to potentially spread the virus?
 
SpurMeUp said:
Likewise. Have some dealings with them and see time again how tax payers money is, to quote Scara, spaffed up the wall.

Had an idea that civil servants pensions should be linked to their performance. Performance is harder to measure it’s not just profit (or savings) but value to people. But it could be done quite easily.

If you don’t take people with you, they will find ways to undermine you.


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
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I see it currently... can we break it into smaller spend to get it though the approvals
Can we do 1 year contracts....
How about you just do your job
 
Grays_1890 said:
What is the view of football now allowing contact training which is the next stage of returning to the game returning soon. This includes as reported on the news tackling and set piece practise which breaks all social distancing laws and guidelines for sport, it can't be viewed as essential work and although it is work and they can't "work from home" is it not flying in the face of what people are going through for footballers to potentially spread the virus?
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Maybe the logic so that theses guys are tested constantly so the controls are in place and people who aren’t infected can make contact without issues
Of course if someone gets ill the whole model collapses
 
Grays_1890 said:
What is the view of football now allowing contact training which is the next stage of returning to the game returning soon. This includes as reported on the news tackling and set piece practise which breaks all social distancing laws and guidelines for sport, it can't be viewed as essential work and although it is work and they can't "work from home" is it not flying in the face of what people are going through for footballers to potentially spread the virus?
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What about if I head the ball with my sweaty forehead and it hits you in the face. It's literally a ball of Covid.

After each contact the ball should be thoroughly washed/sprayed or the whole carry on is perfection..and probably a national disgrace...corrupt and the weight of money literally killing people.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Maybe the logic so that theses guys are tested constantly so the controls are in place and people who aren’t infected can make contact without issues
Of course if someone gets ill the whole model collapses
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Yeh I am sure that is the logic and I am sure they are going to be setting up as many things to omit risk I am just not sure its risk worth taking based on the past weeks news? Especially as footballers have recently been seen to flout the rules more than anyone.

There is someone on here who is closing business down based on the pandemic, can't remember who it is but I would ask them based on their guidelines would they shut football down?
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
I see it currently... can we break it into smaller spend to get it though the approvals
Can we do 1 year contracts....
How about you just do your job
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Everything with government agencies is very slow for a start. There is no incentive to make quick easy changes to save cash. The main aim is to keep your head down as a civil servant. Not go out on a limb or take even the slightest risk. That culture pervades. Even smart able civil servants tend to succumb, and faced with criticism they retreat and take even fewer risks. Since Brexit things got worse still. Many departments just went into a comatose state. Few proactive projects were being undertaken as there was uncertainty, and two lots of purdah, then plenty of changes to departmental bosses - Ministers.

I think new labour were trying to attract more private enterprise-like people into the service. Increasing pay and bonuses. Trying to shift the culture. But from what I've seen a lot of that has been lost and there has been malaise for a decade. There are a lot of departments though, each has a different setup, so I am sure there is plenty of good practice too. We worked with the Department for Business Innovation and Skill. It was such a joke May got rid of the whole department! Closed it down. Also work with the Department for Education. A huge department that all schools answer to directly now. They also oversee Universities, colleges etc.

Generally, the Minister in charge has a pet project. Something they care about, and this gets pushed through with some urgency. The rest languishes.

Edit: now I understand your last line, I thought you were asking what I did :) Yes winning as a civil servant is too often keeping your head down and doing as little as possible. Not true for all of course.
 
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