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Are folks really blaming the Italian government for the UKs issues. That is funny. Why take responsibility when you can blame someone else!?

Good to see you've so clearly taken my suggestions from yesterday onboard. You know, regarding your tendencies not to read things properly and to jump to extreme, black & white conclusions...:D
 
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https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/Innovation-for-COVID

Bill Gates's blog article on Covid makes for a depressing and optimistic read;

INNOVATION VS. THE CORONAVIRUS
The first modern pandemic (short read)
The scientific advances we need to defeat COVID-19.
By Bill Gates
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April 24, 2020 5 minute read
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This post originally appeared as an opinion piece in the Washington Post. It’s adapted from a longer article, which you can read here.

It’s entirely understandable that the national conversation has turned to a single question: “When can we get back to normal?” The shutdown has caused immeasurable pain in jobs lost, people isolated, and worsening inequity. People are ready to get going again.

Unfortunately, although we have the will, we don’t have the way—not yet. Before the United States and other countries can return to business and life as usual, we will need some innovative new tools that help us detect, treat, and prevent COVID-19.

It begins with testing. We can’t defeat an enemy if we don’t know where it is. To reopen the economy, we need to be testing enough people that we can quickly detect emerging hotspots and intervene early. We don’t want to wait until the hospitals start to fill up and more people die.


“Another test under development would work much like an at-home pregnancy test.”
Innovation can help us get the numbers up. The current coronavirus tests require that health-care workers perform nasal swabs, which means they have to change their protective gear before every test. But our foundation supported research showing that having patients do the swab themselves produces results that are just as accurate. This self-swab approach is faster and safer, since regulators should be able to approve swabbing at home or in other locations rather than having people risk additional contact.

Another diagnostic test under development would work much like an at-home pregnancy test. You would swab your nose, but instead of sending it into a processing center, you’d put it in a liquid and then pour that liquid onto a strip of paper, which would change color if the virus was present. This test may be available in a few months.

We need one other advance in testing, but it’s social, not technical: consistent standards about who can get tested. If the country doesn’t test the right people—essential workers, people who are symptomatic, and those who have been in contact with someone who tested positive—then we’re wasting a precious resource and potentially missing big reserves of the virus. Asymptomatic people who aren’t in one of those three groups should not be tested until there are enough tests for everyone else.

The second area where we need innovation is contact tracing. Once someone tests positive, public-health officials need to know who else that person might have infected.

For now, the United States can follow Germany’s example: interview everyone who tests positive and use a database to make sure someone follows up with all their contacts. This approach is far from perfect, because it relies on the infected person to report their contacts accurately and requires a lot of staff to follow up with everyone in person. But it would be an improvement over the sporadic way that contact tracing is being done across the United States now.

An even better solution would be the broad, voluntary adoption of digital tools. For example, there are apps that will help you remember where you have been; if you ever test positive, you can review the history or choose to share it with whoever comes to interview you about your contacts. And some people have proposed allowing phones to detect other phones that are near them by using Bluetooth and emitting sounds that humans can’t hear. If someone tested positive, their phone would send a message to the other phones, and their owners could get tested. If most people chose to install this kind of application, it would probably help some.

Naturally, anyone who tests positive will immediately want to know about treatment options. Yet, right now, there is no treatment for COVID-19. Hydroxychloroquine, which works by changing the way the human body reacts to a virus, has received a lot of attention. Our foundation is funding a clinical trial that will give an indication whether it works on COVID-19 by the end of May, and it appears the benefits will be modest at best.

But several more-promising candidates are on the horizon. One involves drawing blood from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, making sure it is free of the coronavirus and other infections, and giving the plasma (and the antibodies it contains) to sick people. Several major companies are working together to see whether this succeeds.

Another type of drug candidate involves identifying the antibodies that are most effective against the novel coronavirus, and then manufacturing them in a lab. If this works, it is not yet clear how many doses could be produced; it depends on how much antibody material is needed per dose. In 2021, manufacturers may be able to make as few as 100,000 treatments or many millions.

If, a year from now, people are going to big public events—such as games or concerts in a stadium—it will be because researchers have discovered an extremely effective treatment that makes everyone feel safe to go out again. Unfortunately, based on the evidence I’ve seen, they’ll likely find a good treatment, but not one that virtually guarantees you’ll recover.

That’s why we need to invest in a fourth area of innovation: making a vaccine. Every additional month that it takes to produce a vaccine is a month in which the economy cannot completely return to normal.


“An RNA vaccine essentially turns your body into its own vaccine manufacturing unit.”
The new approach I’m most excited about is known as an RNA vaccine. (The first COVID-19 vaccine to start human trials is an RNA vaccine.) Unlike a flu shot, which contains fragments of the influenza virus so your immune system can learn to attack them, an RNA vaccine gives your body the genetic code needed to produce viral fragments on its own. When the immune system sees these fragments, it learns how to attack them. An RNA vaccine essentially turns your body into its own vaccine manufacturing unit.

There are at least five other efforts that look promising. But because no one knows which approach will work, a number of them need to be funded so they can all advance at full speed simultaneously.

Even before there’s a safe, effective vaccine, governments need to work out how to distribute it. The countries that provide the funding, the countries where the trials are run, and the ones that are hardest-hit will all have a good case that they should receive priority. Ideally, there would be global agreement about who should get the vaccine first, but given how many competing interests there are, this is unlikely to happen. Whoever solves this problem equitably will have made a major breakthrough.

World War II was the defining moment of my parents’ generation. Similarly, the coronavirus pandemic—the first in a century—will define this era. But there is one big difference between a world war and a pandemic: All of humanity can work together to learn about the disease and develop the capacity to fight it. With the right tools in hand, and smart implementation, we will eventually be able to declare an end to this pandemic—and turn our attention to how to prevent and contain the next one.
See that Gates was interviewed by CNN yesterday.

 
Are folks really blaming the Italian government for the UKs issues. That is funny. Why take responsibility when you can blame someone else!?


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app

Where has anyone done that? Clear that we were talking on a global scale like when Italy hosted the Spanish and when they sent fans to France....both non UK events.

But crack on with your misinterpretation of clear conversations, continued theme there.
 
The thing that gets me is the lack of transparency - for me, too much of the government’s effort has gone into arse-covering.

This.
I'm still seething at their collective deceit. Sod their minute's silence at No 10 today, the bunch of hypocrites!
 
I did not see it I will watch this afternoon, I have seen some interesting reaction.

One POV was that the government does not order PPE it finances it and its the local authority to deal with logistics. I have no idea if that is true or not?

Additionally lack of PPE for care homes a bulk of them are privately owned for profit companies. PPE is their responsibility.

We were never actually short in the end of ventilators in the end as much as it was perilously close?

Just to be clear this is stuff thats been stated on the news this morning I have been earwigging whilst working. Not my view

I suppose my gripe is about wanting an adult conversation with the electorate. It’s not party political; Labour or the Lib Dems might have made as many mistakes had they been in government. I would just like someone in charge to admit errors were made and to clearly say sorry for that. I find the evasion and arse-covering hard to take in the face of so many deaths.

Ryanair have apparently just switched off the phones

Take the voucher and jog along.

I’ve had nothing from the tossers bar two texts telling me my flights were cancelled. On the Beach no better - sent me an email saying I’d be refunded in full within 14 days. That was five weeks ago; since then they’ve gone to ground.

Impossible to contact either company.
 
I suppose my gripe is about wanting an adult conversation with the electorate. It’s not party political; Labour or the Lib Dems might have made as many mistakes had they been in government. I would just like someone in charge to admit errors were made and to clearly say sorry for that. I find the evasion and arse-covering hard to take in the face of so many deaths.



I’ve had nothing from the tossers bar two texts telling me my flights were cancelled. On the Beach no better - sent me an email saying I’d be refunded in full within 14 days. That was five weeks ago; since then they’ve gone to ground.

Impossible to contact either company.

Ryanair Won’t be giving cash out till it’s over.

If you think airlines are awful now, wait till this is over....
 
French prime minister unveils lockdown easing plan

French Prime Minister Édouard Philippe is giving a speech to parliament about the government's plans to ease lockdown restrictions.

The plan will be rolled out in different areas of France, but strict rules will remain in place in regions worst affected by the outbreak.

  • From 11 May, it's proposed that kindergartens and elementary schools will gradually reopen, followed by middle schools a week later. A decision will be made about high schools at the end of the month.
  • Shops and markets will also be allowed to reopen, but not bars and restaurants. Retailers will also be able to require customers to wear masks on their premises.
  • Mr Philippe stressed that the lockdown will not be eased unless the number of new infections in France drops to 3,000 a day by 11 May
 
President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa has announced that Portugal's state of emergency will end on Sunday 2 May.

However, speaking Tuesday, he cautioned this was not the end of the national outbreak and stressed that reopening of the economy would be a slow and gradual process.

"What matters in this new phase is that the Portuguese know that containment remains important so we must take small steps and constantly evaluate (the situation)," he said at a news conference.

Portugal has recorded 24,322 coronavirus cases and 948 deaths.

A state of emergency has been in place since 18 March, with people told to stay home and travel restricted
 
Good to see you've so clearly taken my suggestions from yesterday onboard. You know, regarding your tendencies not to read things properly and to jump to extreme, black & white conclusions...:D

To be honest I am struggling to understand your and @Grays_1890 point about other nations. The UK have not locked us Brits in (thank goodness). By your logic, the UK government is therefore culpable for spreading the disease too, or its just criticism of the Italians?
 
To be honest I am struggling to understand your and @Grays_1890 point about other nations. The UK have not locked us Brits in (thank goodness). By your logic, the UK government is therefore culpable for spreading the disease too, or its just criticism of the Italians?

Are you really struggling with the idea that after Italy shut down their football league to behind closed doors it was not silly to allow a bunch of Italian nationals to go abroad for a game in France do exactly what they were trying to do exactly what they were trying to avoid?

You can't seem to answer a straight question (something that seems to grate on you about others)

And yes where we said globally everyone was culpable then that includes the UK like with Cheltenham, fudge me thats not hard to understand.
 
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