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Christian Eriksen

Bedfordspurs said:
Here you go

Allo mate… ICDs (implantable define) will only deliver 6 to 8 (depending on manufacturer) therapies in a row. So if a patient dies before the device is switched off, it’ll deliver 6 shocks only and then do nothing else. But remember, they only shock rhythms that are extremely fast and coming from the main pumping chambers. So if the patients heart stops, it won’t shock them. Most of them also have pacing (delivering small amounts of energy to make the heart contract like a normal pacemaker), and will continue to do so after death. But if the heart is dying or already dead, pacing it won’t do anything either. Basically they abort sudden cardiac death, but if the patient is dying it won’t prevent them from dying.

This is a video of Anthony Van Loo who has an ICD in situ. He has an episode of sudden cardiac death which the ICD shocks him out of
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Thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for. I am in awe of how amazingly far the technology/medicine synergy has come, in a very short time, and it will surely be amazing to see what lies ahead on that front.
I'm using electronic aids myself, I've had permanent hearing loss since birth, and just in the last decade or two the advances in hearing aid technology has been really profound, from being pure amplifiers with a few frequency-adjustments, to pure software-driven computers that replicates 20-20 hearing almost regardless of situations. All while the devices has become smaller and smaller.
Hearing aids are perhaps not directly lifesaving in the same way a ICD or pacemaker is, but I'd be fairly lost without it.

Albeit, on one occation it could possibly have killed me, or caused me harm.. :)
I was in Paris a few years ago, while the city was on edge due to recent terrorism, and the yellow vest-protests. I've got my hearing aids paired with my phone, and I listen to music or books while I walk. And if the traffic-noise is heavy, I shut off external sound. This of course is not apparent to anyone watching me, since I don't have headphones or white earbuds that gives that away.
Anyway, I was walking down Champs-Élysées on my way to work, with my backpack on, totally oblivious to the world, and suddenly felt a tap on my shoulder, turned, and looked straight into a rather stern face of a police officer, with his gun half-raised, and two his partners covering me with their guns! Turns out, they had called for me to stop twice, and then a third warning call. I heard nothing, and just kept walking. Fortunately they decided to tap my shoulder instead of just blasting me into eternity for good measure. After a quick search of my bag, a stern warning about not shutting off external sound and a headshaking chuckle they sendt me on my way. I'm just glad I got that experience in a country with a fairly professionally trained police force. I went to USA a while after, needless to say, I did not listen to audio books with no external sound there!

Ok, enough off topic.

So good to see Christian Eriksen posting update on instagram this morning, super optimistic on his behalf now. If he is able to resume his playing career, I'd say that is a cherry on the cake. More important, he is alive, and in a position where he can find meaningful work in or out of football, and be with his family.
 
Junior19 said:
I don't mean to be insensitive, or anything, my dad's got one. But I've always been curious to what happens the day a fellow who has one of these in his chest really kicks the bucket.
Will the device keep firing untill someone "unplugs" it, or it runs out of battery?
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One of my best friends had a heart transplant last year. Prior, he had one. I can confirm that during the last episode (the one which convinced his team it was time for a transplant) it went off THIRTY times in an hour according to the data. I didn't think it was possible to survive. He said each shock hurt terribly.
 
Phew. So happy to see him fine. Jesus fudging christ, what a scare. Hopefully they can figure out what caused it and somehow fix it, and he'll be able to play again - but most probably, his career is over. Blessed to have been able to see him play for such a long time for us. What a footballer.

Best of luck, Christian! You're a fudging star. :)
 
tommysvr said:
Truly incredible what they can do now. Watching Eriksen on the pitch, the other thing I thought was how incredible the doctors and medics are - same as when we all watched Muamba at WHL, thinking he was gone but somehow survived. I can't really articulate it, but with the pandemic and the misinformation surrounding it, it's so inspiring to see people just get to work to save someone's life.
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A bitter-sweet quote here.

German doctor Jens Kleinfeld, who treated him on the field, told Funke media group: "About 30 seconds later, he opened his eyes and I could talk to him directly. "That was a very moving moment, because in such medical emergencies in everyday life, the chances of success are much lower."

Kleinefeld said he asked Eriksen, "Well, are you back with us?"
The doctor said Eriksen answered, "Yes, I am back with you" and, "Damn, I'm only 29 years old".
Kleinefeld added: "That's when I knew the brain wasn't damaged and he had fully returned."


I guess it's a very low chance of him returning to play, but I wonder if it even possible/allowed with an ICD.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57508250
 
JerusalemMan said:
A bitter-sweet quote here.

German doctor Jens Kleinfeld, who treated him on the field, told Funke media group: "About 30 seconds later, he opened his eyes and I could talk to him directly. "That was a very moving moment, because in such medical emergencies in everyday life, the chances of success are much lower."

Kleinefeld said he asked Eriksen, "Well, are you back with us?"
The doctor said Eriksen answered, "Yes, I am back with you" and, "Damn, I'm only 29 years old".
Kleinefeld added: "That's when I knew the brain wasn't damaged and he had fully returned."


I guess it's a very low chance of him returning to play, but I wonder if it even possible/allowed with an ICD.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57508250
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See my earlier post
There are players who play with them
 
To go from playing for your country at the Euros, to clinically dead, to alive again, and wake up to the prospect of never playing football professionally again are some serious highs and lows! What a roller coaster. The Fabrice Maumba incident was even more dramatic in some ways with him gone for 78 minutes. That was a minor miracle. So many Spurs fans were so pleased to see him make it, but the rest of the world didn't notice much. Pales into insignificance but remember Walker scoring a cracker that day that never counted :)
 
JerusalemMan said:
Can't remember where I heard it, but yesterday or today I'm sure I heard a doctor mentioning that the Italians are stricter around health controls relating to cardiac issues and so Eriksen may not be allowed to play again in Serie A, even if he seems to recover.
Of course there's speculation regarding what the precise cause of this issue was, but it's stark to hear that Italian regulations may forbid him from coming back to Inter
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Can we have him on a free transfer then?:D
 
As feared for Christian.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...ss-defibrillator-REMOVED-says-Italian-FA.html

Francesco Braconaro, a member of the Italian FA's technical scientific committee, revealed the Danish footballer must have the defibrillator removed to play in Italian football again, as it will show he has no further heart problems.
Braconaro told Radio Kiss Kiss: 'Christian Eriksen cannot be given the all-clear to play in Italy. If the player has the defibrillator removed, therefore confirming the pathology can be resolved, then he can return to play for Inter.'

He surely cannot have it removed. So, what, a transfer to a team in another country?
 
JerusalemMan said:
As feared for Christian.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...ss-defibrillator-REMOVED-says-Italian-FA.html

Francesco Braconaro, a member of the Italian FA's technical scientific committee, revealed the Danish footballer must have the defibrillator removed to play in Italian football again, as it will show he has no further heart problems.
Braconaro told Radio Kiss Kiss: 'Christian Eriksen cannot be given the all-clear to play in Italy. If the player has the defibrillator removed, therefore confirming the pathology can be resolved, then he can return to play for Inter.'

He surely cannot have it removed. So, what, a transfer to a team in another country?
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Return to Ajax?

Blind has one

or just think it’s not worth it and retire.
 
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