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AVB & Spurs Tactics and Formations discussion thread

formations are unimportant if you dont spend hour after hour working on them on the training ground.
 
elyid said:
Read somewhere a while back that he was undergoing intense running/training and was close to the best shape he's been in for years.
Said he should be ready for 1st team selection some time in March iirc...so hopefully that's still the case.

If he gets himself fit and playing well in training then I'd be pretty annoyed if he's not given a chance while Lennons out.
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Is he in the 25 man squad?
 
braineclipse said:
Wonder how that team up top of the table manage to get away with Carrick and Scholes being their central midfield.
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Their attacking players have been carrying them all-along

A posession/passing team has picked them apart many a times this season. Athletic Bilbao, Basel, etc.

Scholes only came back later - if anything that should show their absolute desperation for some quality in the middle.


EDIT: If you are comparing Carrick / Scholes to Kranjcar - I'd say the only similarity is the fact they both play in the PL. Miles apart.
 
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Enter the Pitbull said:
HARRY REDKNAPP insists he got it right by switching Gareth Bale from the left flank.





Some Spurs fans were left scratching their heads as Wales wonder Bale started on the right.
And they cheered when he reverted to the left in the second half.
But boss Redknapp said: "The right is a problem area for us at the moment.
"You couldn't play Rafa van der Vaart out there because Leighton Baines would have run forward and Rafa would have had a problem chasing him all day if you stuck him wide right.
"We haven't a natural wide-right player apart from Aaron Lennon but Gareth can play there.
"People who moan don't understand the game. People switch wingers now.
"Lots of left-sided, left-footed wingers play on the opposite side. It happens all the time.
"Bale likes playing there. He plays there for Wales and Gary Speed played him there all the time. He played wide right ÔÇö he didn't play left.
"He did all right against Everton. He did better than he has done on the left in the last few weeks ÔÇö it's not a problem."
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Sounds a lot like one or two posters on here.

Assuming what Harry says is true (it's clearly not), we've moved our two best players out of position to counter the attacking threat of Everton? This is the same Everton who have scored about the same number of goals all season as Defoe.
 
We could just play 4-4-1-1 like when we were good.

What, Lennon's injured? oh let's re-shuffle our entire midfield then! Or try Krancjar/Gio out wide....

It's seriously bugging me why HR is reshuffling everyone in the team to try and fix this problem - maybe he is the perfect candidate for England, they like square pegs and round holes!

Oh, and whilst I'm at it Bale needs to get his head back down and stay on the left and stop diving around like Ronaldo - be your own man FFS!!
 
braineclipse said:
Wonder how that team up top of the table manage to get away with Carrick and Scholes being their central midfield.
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Utd have pace everywhere else, not just pace but sheer guts in their running which destroys teams.
 
oh no, we are relying on Bentley to save our season #-o

we are finished

roll on Euro 2012
 
If Harry's primary concern was Baines (not sure why - really doesn't bode well for the future of the England team if true), then why didn't he put Sandro on the right as pure defensive cover like we used to with Jenas now and then? Let him tuck in and give Walker all the breathing space he needs whilst keeping the legendary, game-changing, Baines in check.

I'm not one for playing players out of position, but I'd rather play one out of position on the right than both of our best two players.
 
scaramanga said:
If Harry's primary concern was Baines (not sure why - really doesn't bode well for the future of the England team if true), then why didn't he put Sandro on the right as pure defensive cover like we used to with Jenas now and then? Let him tuck in and give Walker all the breathing space he needs whilst keeping the legendary, game-changing, Baines in check.

I'm not one for playing players out of position, but I'd rather play one out of position on the right than both of our best two players.
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absolutely spot on.

I cannot believe that Redknapp, Bond, Jordan couldnt have realised such a simple idea. Absolutely baffling
 
Arry was so concerned about Vdv playing right midfield because of the attacking threat of Baines but was more then happy to start Niko on the right against Arsenal in a 4-4-2 despite the attacking threat of Gibbs ( who is a fb that goes forward a lot) and it also looked like Oxdale Chamberlain was gonna start on the left too. Makes no sense at all.
 
Kingdawson said:
Arry was so concerned about Vdv playing right midfield because of the attacking threat of Baines but was more then happy to start Niko on the right against Arsenal in a 4-4-2 despite the attacking threat of Gibbs ( who is a fb that goes forward a lot) and it also looked like Oxdale Chamberlain was gonna start on the left too. Makes no sense at all.
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He's obviously trying to cover himself and if you presist questioning his ground-breaking tactical decisions he'll soon resort to calling us idiots again
 
scaramanga said:
If Harry's primary concern was Baines (not sure why - really doesn't bode well for the future of the England team if true), then why didn't he put Sandro on the right as pure defensive cover like we used to with Jenas now and then? Let him tuck in and give Walker all the breathing space he needs whilst keeping the legendary, game-changing, Baines in check.

I'm not one for playing players out of position, but I'd rather play one out of position on the right than both of our best two players.
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Because then we've basically given Everton the entire right side of our pitch? We've turned up to Everton and said 'nothing is going to happen down here' which is just silly when we should be getting at them.

Having Bale there pins Baines back and gives us an attacking threat. Bale should be able to play on the right. Many left footed wingers do it. Many right footed wingers play on the left. Chelsea were devastating under Mourinho with Duff and Robben switching, and one of them was always playing off of their weaker side. It's not a completely stupid decision.
 
Kingdawson said:
Arry was so concerned about Vdv playing right midfield because of the attacking threat of Baines but was more then happy to start Niko on the right against Arsenal in a 4-4-2 despite the attacking threat of Gibbs ( who is a fb that goes forward a lot) and it also looked like Oxdale Chamberlain was gonna start on the left too. Makes no sense at all.
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It's not the attacking threat of Baines as such, it's that playing VDV there means he will be spending most of his time running back to chase Baines when he should be being a goal threat. If you play Bale there, sure Baines can attack, but he does so at the risk of leaving a massive great hole for Bale to run into. He isn't going to be worried about leaving space for VDV when he isn't the quickest so that's why that decision is made.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
Because then we've basically given Everton the entire right side of our pitch? We've turned up to Everton and said 'nothing is going to happen down here' which is just silly when we should be getting at them.

Having Bale there pins Baines back and gives us an attacking threat. Bale should be able to play on the right. Many left footed wingers do it. Many right footed wingers play on the left. Chelsea were devastating under Mourinho with Duff and Robben switching, and one of them was always playing off of their weaker side. It's not a completely stupid decision.
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Walker would have had the licence to bomb forward, with Sandro covering him. Baines would have a torrid time coping with Walker's lung busting runs from deep
 
mick cooper said:
Is thinking an issue for you?
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Well he's making that post on the back of 3 losses and inferring that Kranjcar is to blame for that? Kranjcar has played well this season and has done a solid job stepping in for Lennon so bringing his name up when he'd barely played in these 3 losses is silly.
 
Rossi22 said:
Well he's making that post on the back of 3 losses and inferring that Kranjcar is to blame for that? Kranjcar has played well this season and has done a solid job stepping in for Lennon so bringing his name up when he'd barely played in these 3 losses is silly.
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oh come on, he has the pace of a dead cat
 
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