metalgear
Luka Modric
"Faced with an entrenched cycle of hope, failure and a deepening malaise bred by European misadventures,...
Lol I know well how that feels....
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Antonio Conte - officially NOT the coach of THFC
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Lol I know well how that feels....
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
Vladimir? U ok hun?
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
For me that sums up some of the nights out I had in Hamburg.
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
been busy so less time on here, few thoughts on Brighton and Brentford. I think Conte got it wrong both times. A lot of slating on Royal and we have definitely looked worse since Doherty's injury, but i'm sorry, you can't put those two performances down to a Doherty being out. No shots in target because of a RWB out of the team who would probably be replaced immediately in the Summer anyway? no danger.
Brighton and Brentford done a great job of setting up for the expected. Conte changed personnel in both games but didn't alter a quite clearly failing formation in those 2 games. I don't think dramatic changes were even required, perhaps just an adjustment midmatch to see if moving Kulu more central, going 3-5-2 and trying to control the middle more.
Our two CMs in both games could not control the game, and we could not get the ball anywhere near Kane, Son, Kulu. So why stick with it? I think Conte can do wonders for us if he sticks around, but he is stubborn and i put those 2 failures in the past 2 games on him. By 70mins against Brighton, it was clearly not working. To do the same for the entirety of Brentford is just foolish. And they too should have snatched a late winner.
I'm not saying to do away with 3-4-3 but if it isn't working, he needs to show a Plan B. And he didn't and that cost us.
One other thinkg i'd like to raise was on the View from the Lane podcast. These PSG rumours, the constant complaining and the contract that ends 1 year from now. It's all not going to help things. He whines a lot, i get that, but i have no doubts some players must be thinking "he'll be gone in 1 year max anyway". So either we look to extend the contract now, or perhaps we let him go in the Summer. but i dont' see the postives of all of these factors helping us now.
Brighton and Brentford done a great job of setting up for the expected. Conte changed personnel in both games but didn't alter a quite clearly failing formation in those 2 games. I don't think dramatic changes were even required, perhaps just an adjustment midmatch to see if moving Kulu more central, going 3-5-2 and trying to control the middle more.
Our two CMs in both games could not control the game, and we could not get the ball anywhere near Kane, Son, Kulu. So why stick with it? I think Conte can do wonders for us if he sticks around, but he is stubborn and i put those 2 failures in the past 2 games on him. By 70mins against Brighton, it was clearly not working. To do the same for the entirety of Brentford is just foolish. And they too should have snatched a late winner.
I'm not saying to do away with 3-4-3 but if it isn't working, he needs to show a Plan B. And he didn't and that cost us.
One other thinkg i'd like to raise was on the View from the Lane podcast. These PSG rumours, the constant complaining and the contract that ends 1 year from now. It's all not going to help things. He whines a lot, i get that, but i have no doubts some players must be thinking "he'll be gone in 1 year max anyway". So either we look to extend the contract now, or perhaps we let him go in the Summer. but i dont' see the postives of all of these factors helping us now.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Apols to cut down your post to the final paragraph only but doesn't the contract also have a 1 year option in the club's favour? I'm sure I remember Conte talking about that when he joined saying that he wanted that clause to be in there so that the club only had to keep him for the third year if they were happy with his work?
Not heard that but great if true.
Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
both parties would have to agree though. right now this no mans land helps no one.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
Not necessarily.
Usually the clubs decision. Psg and ajax triggered extensions when we showed interest for poch and ten hag.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I'm pretty sure I remember Conte saying that it was in the club's favour (i.e. we can unilaterally invoke the extension).
greatwhitenorf
Edgar Davids
Interesting to read today in the Athletic that Pochettino is 100% certain he will be back at PSG next year. With Mbappe in tow. They lay out the summer scenarios for managerial positions with top clubs in the best leagues and, if Poch sticks at PSG, sticking with Spurs looks by far the best available situation for Conte.
With fans back at full capacity - seats and suites - the beer taps gushing and a host of auxiliary events booked for the stadium, Levy should be happy with the financial state of affairs and have a decent budget to offer for new players. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Gil have done their transfer values no harm while on loan.
So, a summer transfer window for Conte and Paratici to do their recruitment and offloading, then a proper pre-season training camp to embed his tactics and strategies. Pretty decent prospect for Conte when it's all summed up. Make progress next season - top four a must have, good run in Europe to boost our super soaraway UEFA co-efficient - and I could easily see both Conte and Spurs happily renewing their vows for that third season. Oh, the songs he'll be sung.
What could possibly go wrong?
With fans back at full capacity - seats and suites - the beer taps gushing and a host of auxiliary events booked for the stadium, Levy should be happy with the financial state of affairs and have a decent budget to offer for new players. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Gil have done their transfer values no harm while on loan.
So, a summer transfer window for Conte and Paratici to do their recruitment and offloading, then a proper pre-season training camp to embed his tactics and strategies. Pretty decent prospect for Conte when it's all summed up. Make progress next season - top four a must have, good run in Europe to boost our super soaraway UEFA co-efficient - and I could easily see both Conte and Spurs happily renewing their vows for that third season. Oh, the songs he'll be sung.
What could possibly go wrong?
metalgear
Luka Modric
if the club activates the extension and conte is unwilling, he might just stick with a strict 3-5-2 with no variations and blame it on the players. Oh wait......
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Complete guess, but I think he will extend or we will part ways.
I don’t see him starting the season with us with 1 year left.
I don’t see him starting the season with us with 1 year left.
We bring in players he extends. Seems simple enough.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
Interesting quote from Conte and assuming i’ve understood it correctly I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment - The aim can’t just be top 4, for now it’s at least something to go for as the board / Nuno and coaching staff / players screwed up any chance of actual glory in the first third of the season.
On a side note good to see an effective sub from him, obviously it helps having a game changer on the bench, don’t know if he mentioned specifically why Moura got the start, despite Lucas not exactly excelling it gave us an option to mix it up.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Bit unfair to blame Nuno for "screwing up any chance of glory." When he left we were still in both the Carabao and Europa Conference and we hadn't started the FA cup.
What has made it difficult this season in the PL is our failures against our rivals in the top half of the table (City aside and Nuno beat them too). Our performances against our rivals have not been good enough whether under Nuno or Conte. Hopefully we can get something against Liverpool but the likelihood is not.
Whereas Arsenal have beaten all the sides around them bar the top 2. That's what we need to work on next season as well as better performances in the cups.
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spurspinter1
Steve Carr
On what you’ve said + a quick look at our results / timeline this season to refresh my memory I’ll hold my hands up on that one - It wasn’t necessarily Nuno’s fault he could rev the players up for the conference league, plus signings that weren’t meant for the first team for a while + Romero injury didn’t help his case. Although league wise I do have a sad memory of him just looking forlorn / stunned on the touch line in some of “those” performances towards the end.
Two fingers remain firmly aloft in the direction of the board and players for another damp squid of a season though, things do look better for next time if Conte is satisfied with the squad - One hopes it doesn’t rely on us getting CL to be able to make the required changes to be competitive.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Thought other beating us last year their only wins against the big sides were last week when both those side shat the bed