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American politics

Robspur12 said:
I wonder whether he wants to crash the stock market to make a killing on cut price shares? I mean let's face it people like him rarely lose out even during economic downturns.
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No doubt. I'm saving up money to invest when Trump decides it's time for the market to grow again.
 
Asian markets down massively, no doubt Europe & the US will follow suit
Crypto being sold off
If the tariffs plan is to make thr world poor again, Trump has hit the motherload with it
 
To me, it seems as if he is extending the domestic policies of penalising or not individual firms to extract 'favours'. He has law firms, social media companies, etc., coming to him on bended knee. Now he wants countries to be beholden to him and his whims in a similar manner and is using tariffs as the stick to do it. Needless to say, he has no notion of what he is doing. He is a simpleton surrounded by other economic illiterates.
There may be some upsides to the end of globalisation, from a climate perspective in particular, though a managed post-growth trajectory would be less painful than outright economic collapse.
 
Mikey10 said:
It’s almost entirely about him and his billionaire mates making billions more. America is now just as corrupt as Russia.
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But it wasn't even hidden. He told the voting public what he would do, and is doing it. Therfore less blame lies with Trump for this, more with the people who voted for him.
 
Rorschach said:
To me, it seems as if he is extending the domestic policies of penalising or not individual firms to extract 'favours'. He has law firms, social media companies, etc., coming to him on bended knee.
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And the Judiciary has been weakened. Power corrupts especially when all former opponents are falling into line. Imagine the head fudge that gives to someone with his ego. He thinks he can do anything. It's odd that there are not sufficient checks and balances on Executive power in the US.

Rorschach said:
He is a simpleton surrounded by other economic illiterates.
There may be some upsides to the end of globalisation, from a climate perspective in particular, though a managed post-growth trajectory would be less painful than outright economic collapse.
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The last time America had a crash on the world economy like this, you saw the rise of Nazism in Germany. So you have the combined effect of the curtailing of USAID and then these tariffs. The effect on smaller countries will be catastrophic and make the world less safe.
 
So now they are saying that the Federal sacked workforce will be going into labour jobs to prop up extra manufacturing..................beyond parody
 
I'm following the Alt National Park Service on Facebook, seemingly an organised resistance group who sometimes posts in codes and gives lots of interesting insight - both on Trump's dismantling of US institutions and on the resistance movement. For instance, they claim 5,3 million Americans protested Trump in various rallies earlier this week.

It's interesting and infuriating, but shows that there is a lot of dissent within the US population.
 
Robbo said:
I'm following the Alt National Park Service on Facebook, seemingly an organised resistance group who sometimes posts in codes and gives lots of interesting insight - both on Trump's dismantling of US institutions and on the resistance movement. For instance, they claim 5,3 million Americans protested Trump in various rallies earlier this week.

It's interesting and infuriating, but shows that there is a lot of dissent within the US population.
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And, unfortunately, means nothing as they tighten their authoritarian grip on every aspect of the country.

They continued their purge of the military today with the firing of Shoshana Chatfield.

It’s quite probably already too late.
 
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Robspur12 said:
And the Judiciary has been weakened. Power corrupts especially when all former opponents are falling into line. Imagine the head fudge that gives to someone with his ego. He thinks he can do anything. It's odd that there are not sufficient checks and balances on Executive power in the US.


The last time America had a crash on the world economy like this, you saw the rise of Nazism in Germany. So you have the combined effect of the curtailing of USAID and then these tariffs. The effect on smaller countries will be catastrophic and make the world less safe.
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The conservatives on the US supreme court are corrupt to the core. Here is the latest example. There is no need for them to stay this order but Roberts did anyway.

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Chief Justice Roberts has stayed the order requiring the Trump govt to return Abrego Garcia to the US today. He has given his lawyers until tomorrow to respond. [contains quote post or other embedded content]
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Mikey10 said:
And, unfortunately, means nothing as they tighten their authoritarian grip on every aspect of the country.

They continued their purge of the military today with the firing of Shoshana Chatfield.

It’s quite probably already too late.
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I. Have been yo America 5 times and loved it, great people I meet. Can't believe how bad it's gone.

I may disagree with most of you on other political matters but I agree totally on Trump. I have always called him out as a loon who should be on prison.

Can barely typs this tonight as I'm shaking so badly. But for the record I have always hated him.
 
The more I think about it, the more I realise that these tariffs aren't about politics, production or any of that.
As always, it's just about him! That 70+year old baby.

He needs to be the centre of attention all the time, and this is more of that. All he wants is that everyone have to come to him and negotiate a deal. The more useless and small country, the better.
They have to come to HIM and beg, and then he can brag about 'making so many deals'. 'No one has ever made more deals'.

And if you go through those deals, afterwords, they'll be pretty much exactly as it was before, only specific for each country, instead of one deal for a large number of countries.

That's what this is about. It's just about him. Nothing else.
 
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