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American politics

Robbo said:
It's all Biden's fault, though. And Democrats. And gays, Mexicans, Greta Thunberg, immigrants, Canadians, liberals, etc. There's always a spacegoat other than Trump, and the MAGA cult will believe whatever gibberish coming out of that orange mouth.
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Although its for the wrong reasons, the ripping apart of the Washington Consensus might have positive consequences for the world. For too long it's only worked for the interests of the 1%.

Greater economic localism (alongside social internationalism) is also fundamentally one of the main ways of solving the climate crisis.
 
Britain must allow US chlorine-washed chicken into UK markets if it wants relief from sweeping tariffs, Donald Trump has indicated.

 
Robspur12 said:
The only thing that may make the cult turn against Trump is when they are severely hit in their pocket. Tarrifs, reduction in available labour because of their immigration policy, isolationism and protectionism.. That's going to hit the American economy and then the American public hard.
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The Allied Forces were sweeping through Germany and yet millions still believed in the Fuhrer.
 
Mikey10 said:
The Allied Forces were sweeping through Germany and yet millions still believed in the Fuhrer.
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Funny how humans repeat the same pattern over and over again.

The far right propaganda machine is far more effective at communicating than anything the left has managed to muster. Simple messaging that plays to people's basest fears and concerns. Until the left learns how to effectively counter this it will always struggle to get a progressive message across.
 
One reporter asked him how the tariffs were going, to which Trump said he thinks "it's going very well. It was an operation like when a patient gets operated on, and it's a big thing".

"We have six or seven trillion dollars coming into our country," the US president says, "the markets are going to boom, the stock is going to boom, the country is going to boom".

"And the rest of the world wants to see is there any way they can make a deal," he adds. "They've taken advantage of us for many, many years."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c1dr7vy39eet

This is the guy that bankrupted a casino.
 
Craig_J said:
I still find the superlatives so weird to watch


“More than, ever before, worst in history, best in our history, fantastic, tremendous, great threat”


He has such a repetitive manner of speaking. It always feels like he his speeches are scripts that will be filled in for any kind of situation.
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Don't forget the groceries
 
Gutter Boy said:
Although its for the wrong reasons, the ripping apart of the Washington Consensus might have positive consequences for the world. For too long it's only worked for the interests of the 1%.

Greater economic localism (alongside social internationalism) is also fundamentally one of the main ways of solving the climate crisis.
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I think you've hit upon a dilemma truth here. There is little doubt that supporting local industry and products is a healthy thing for those communities. I always look to buy my food from small independent shops and small local farms. I've paid loads for my eggs forever but they are from local hens, and I like that. It is also true that we have a global system in place which cannot just be unplugged and reset, albeit that's essentially what we're seeing.

The main problem I see is that people want to 'buy local' but still scream and howl at the inconvenience and prices 'buying local' brings. And I agree with you re: the rampant and unchecked profiteering and absurd profit margins for which there never seems to be a compromise. I come from the school of 'well if dropping my profit margin from 200% to 150% can help my workers get paid a fairer wage and maintain the value of the goods produced' it's a win-win. Of course, I understand that to most this marks me as (at best) naive...there again, in my school, extreme wealth and power are not goals.
 
thfcsteff said:
I think you've hit upon a dilemma truth here. There is little doubt that supporting local industry and products is a healthy thing for those communities. I always look to buy my food from small independent shops and small local farms. I've paid loads for my eggs forever but they are from local hens, and I like that. It is also true that we have a global system in place which cannot just be unplugged and reset, albeit that's essentially what we're seeing.

The main problem I see is that people want to 'buy local' but still scream and howl at the inconvenience and prices 'buying local' brings. And I agree with you re: the rampant and unchecked profiteering and absurd profit margins for which there never seems to be a compromise. I come from the school of 'well if dropping my profit margin from 200% to 150% can help my workers get paid a fairer wage and maintain the value of the goods produced' it's a win-win. Of course, I understand that to most this marks me as (at best) naive...there again, in my school, extreme wealth and power are not goals.
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It's a great post.

It took a war in Ukraine for Germany to get some priority and changes in place on their dependency on Russia for energy.

I know not everyone on here is from the UK, but I really hope that we're really tuning into this global scenario and looking at how we change. We know that by 2030, we're almost self sufficient on our energy with projects like Hinkley C and the wind / solar strategies. We need to ideate on every other supply chain and create policies that promote local business like you talk about. The import / export equation is so important to our future.

Hinkley is a great example as it is basically this model of ownership - EDF Energy (70.5%) / China General Nuclear Power Group (29.5%). I guess it is a necessary evil to get these companies through their UK subsidiaries to keep 11000 local construction workers in employment in Somerset. It is by no means the ideal scenario as EDF (Électricité de France) runs all 8 of our nuclear stations. However, it is a necessary step to ensure that in the future we can shift the balance back to UK owned companies in all of our major supply chains. Most important, be dependent on nobody but ourselves for our energy.

Obviously the food chain is as big as it gets. We all should be doing what you do and buying locally sourced produce where possible. We should also eliminate meat from our diets for one or two days of every week. Easier said than done though when the price tag is staring back at you and the Tesco or Sainsbury branded product is the cheapest.

Like you, I've given up on wealth as a primary goal in life. I appreciate that break even is better than a huge percentage of this country are getting. Fortunately, I mostly minimally break even. These last couple of months have been anything but that though. Trump's actions have wiped a decent percentage of my pension in the UK. 9% to be exact since the day he sat next to Zelinsky in the WH. Of course, it's a first world problem for me compared to most of this planet.
 
I think what they will find with taking on China is that there are enough of them in China to support "buying local" which means a lesser impact of international tariffs. 1.42bn in a culture where you can almost dictate habits means China will come off alot better than the USA who IMO just don't have enough people with enough wealth to buy "US" in order to keep their economy going.

He is killing the country now.......there is no romantic 7bn bounce back which he is pretending there is
 
Grays_1890 said:
I think what they will find with taking on China is that there are enough of them in China to support "buying local" which means a lesser impact of international tariffs. 1.42bn in a culture where you can almost dictate habits means China will come off alot better than the USA who IMO just don't have enough people with enough wealth to buy "US" in order to keep their economy going.

He is killing the country now.......there is no romantic 7bn bounce back which he is pretending there is
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And Americans might revolt when it hits their wallets.
The Chinese won't have that luxury.
 
Grays_1890 said:
I think what they will find with taking on China is that there are enough of them in China to support "buying local" which means a lesser impact of international tariffs. 1.42bn in a culture where you can almost dictate habits means China will come off alot better than the USA who IMO just don't have enough people with enough wealth to buy "US" in order to keep their economy going.

He is killing the country now.......there is no romantic 7bn bounce back which he is pretending there is
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I wonder whether he wants to crash the stock market to make a killing on cut price shares? I mean let's face it people like him rarely lose out even during economic downturns.
 
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