2022 World Cup... gonna ruin the European Season

[Robbo]

No surprises there.

I do feel for the players too, though. It's not the players' fault the corrupt fudgers at FIFA awarded the WC to a gay hating, women suppressing, migrant worker killing, oil regime with close to zero football culture.

This is the WC after all, a tournament they've worked hard to be a part of for 10-15-20 years. For some of them, this will be their only chance to experience it.

I sincerely hope some of them will dare to make some sort of protest, but I fully understand how difficult it is when FIFA threatens you with yellow cards for standing up for basic human rights. It takes massive balls to risk your entire tournament - maybe your once in a lifetime chance - to make such a statement.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

If you've not picked up a booking, wear it in the last group game if bookings are then zeroed after the group stage.

I looked that up earlier as I had the same thought. But :

The yellow card count carries from the group stage to the knockout phase, but it is reset to zero in the semifinals. That means players won’t miss a final due to yellow card accumulation from different games. They can still be ruled out if they see the red card in the semis.
But the semifinals don’t wipe out suspensions. Therefore, players who receive their second yellow card in the quarterfinals do miss the following round. But those who get to the semis with just one yellow card, have the count cleared to zero.​

 

[markysimmo]

Meanwhile all over the city !!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594631017066741761

 

[glorygloryeze]

The mighty yellow card is enough to have players and associations scurrying for cover.

I can't quite work this out. Morgan Freeman, Infantino et al....were banging on about 'oneness' 'inclusiveness' in the opening gonad*s, but when teams want to wear a 'one love' armband (er....the same message?), nope we'll sanction you...wtf. (I'm guessing it's the rainbow imagery and it's representation of LGBTQ and that jarring against the host countries beliefs and laws)

I think FIFA have left the door open here, to the brave (well, just someone with a spine tbh). They haven't threatened expulsion, just a measly yellow card. The team could all wear a armband? My feeling is this is going to be down to an individual, the FA are an embarrassment.

The WC is poop.

As with a lot of things, when it comes to the crunch....

Money talks, Bullsh!t walks...

 

[Robbo]

Here's an idea: What if seven players from the same team dyed their hair in seven different colours, lets say for instance red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. Could make for some lovely colour coordinated goal celebrations, not to mention the pre match lineups.

Would be interesting to see how they handled that situation. Seven yellows? Surely red hair isn't an offence, despite many wanting it to be.

I'm sure there's plenty precedents from former world cups with players with different hair styles and colours too.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Absolutely cowardly. This is much more important than the match.

England need to withdraw from FIFA asap

 

[markysimmo]

So lets count how many times Mount/Sterling don't pass to Kane when they easily could

 

[glorygloryeze]

Absolutely cowardly. This is much more important than the match.

England need to withdraw from FIFA asap

FIFA and a fair few other countries will love that.....do we really want the likes of Kane etc throwing their careers down the drain, or kids from Stepney, Norwich etc switching allegiances to other countries because of England not having chances to play in international tournaments? Does it stop being really about football at that point?

If people really want to make a stand i'd suggest:

a) find out the corporate conglomerates who always want to align themselves with what was 'the people's game' so that they can advertise, sell their wares etc
b) assume all were happy to have the world cup in Qatar and take Qatari money directly or via FIFA
C) Boycott them going forwards if you feel so strongly; don't buy their products, set-up online campaigns detailing why they are being boycotted etc. If Nike are one of them, don't buy any of their boots, training gear, kits (including Spurs) etc
d) Identify any companies who pulled out of being associated with the Qatar world cup for the reasons of human rights etc and instead put your money et towards them, and use an online campaign to state so, share information etc

Of course, this is going to be difficult; but if that's honestly something you feel so strongly about it is doable.

If no doabale, then as i say, when it comes to the crunch: money talks, bullsh!t walks...

 

[Grays_1890]

FIFA and a fair few other countries will love that.....do we really want the likes of Kane etc throwing their careers down the drain, or kids from Stepney, Norwich etc switching allegiances to other countries because of England not having chances to play in international tournaments? Does it stop being really about football at that point?

If people really want to make a stand i'd suggest:

a) find out the corporate conglomerates who always want to align themselves with what was 'the people's game' so that they can advertise, sell their wares etc
b) assume all were happy to have the world cup in Qatar and take Qatari money directly or via FIFA
C) Boycott them going forwards if you feel so strongly; don't buy their products, set-up online campaigns detailing why they are being boycotted etc. If Nike are one of them, don't buy any of their boots, training gear, kits (including Spurs) etc
d) Identify any companies who pulled out of being associated with the Qatar world cup for the reasons of human rights etc and instead put your money et towards them, and use an online campaign to state so, share information etc

Of course, this is going to be difficult; but if that's honestly something you feel so strongly about it is doable.

If no doabale, then as i say, when it comes to the crunch: money talks, bullsh!t walks...

So you place football above it all then because your post seems to suggest that individuals should make tough consumer choices as long as the game is not touched? Seems a slightly confused suggestion TBH

There is a huge difference with people making consumer choices to live, in many cases restricted by their wallet and choosing to play in whats frankly just a football tournament under a banner of "no gays allowed" and the head of their representatives saying "Gay is an illness of the mind"

Everyone should feel uncomfortable with that, not trying to create weak equivalents

 

[markysimmo]

Mount, Sterling, Pickford, Maguire all in terrible form for their clubs and yet he plays them for the National team
The bloke is a joke, so much for playing players who are in form and deserving of their place

 

[Dicko]

Should obviously win but I'm well prepared for a 0-0 followed by the mass panic about potentially going out at the group stages!

 

[glorygloryeze]

So you place football above it all then because your post seems to suggest that individuals should make tough consumer choices as long as the game is not touched? Seems a slightly confused suggestion TBH

There is a huge difference with people making consumer choices to live, in many cases restricted by their wallet and choosing to play in whats frankly just a football tournament under a banner of "no gays allowed" and the head of their representatives saying "Gay is an illness of the mind"

Everyone should feel uncomfortable with that, not trying to create weak equivalents

Consumerism/consumer choices are what football, FIFA and the world cup has become, whether we like it or not.
Football is being hosted in Qatar because of consumerism and the rush for more money, sponsors etc from different, new and rich sources of that. Nothing to do with human rights etc.

As i say, if people really want to make a stand and stop certain regimes, human rights violation etc being connected to football, then those are ultimately the actions that will make a difference, especially as those within the game find it difficult. Football is nothing without the fans, so i don't see why my post seems so controversial

 

[glasgowspur]

When you compare the Iranian teams solidarity with their oppressed and the consequences they may suffer it does not show the armband nations up very well.

 

[johnola]

When you compare the Iranian teams solidarity with their oppressed and the consequences they may suffer it does not show the armband nations up very well.

Strange view that is. England and Wales wanted to visibility support the communities that Qatar does not tolerate. Iran have done nothing.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Strange view that is. England and Wales wanted to visibility support the communities that Qatar does not tolerate. Iran have done nothing.

Nothing? They have shown support for people being crushed by their regime at home. At the risk of their regime giving them rough treatment when they get home. How is that nothing?

 

[glorygloryeze]

I remember hearing Iranian activists wanting England fans to join them in the stadium to show gestures of support for the Iranians being oppressed by the Iranian regime...This is the thing with football being by far the world's most popular sport: everyone wants to further a cause or highlight a campaign using it

 

[Dicko]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594669326900277248

 

[Grays_1890]

Nothing? They have shown support for people being crushed by their regime at home. At the risk of their regime giving them rough treatment when they get home. How is that nothing?

Real men for real action, takes alot more for them to do it with the threat of death hanging over them. We were shown up being scared of a yellow card

 

[FolkestoneSpur]

Iranians whistling through their national anthem, well played!

 

[glasgowspur]

Nothing? They have shown support for people being crushed by their regime at home. At the risk of their regime giving them rough treatment when they get home. How is that nothing?

Thank you, put it better than i could.