johnola
Vedran Corluka
which i why i specifically asked about passenger travel.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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MartyFunkhouser
Erik Thorstvedt
Because passenger planes are also used for freight on every flight
The actual use of Passenger flights for freight increased in Covid.
That might be a bit much - you have to allow voters to choose. It should trigger a by-election certainly. And probably come with a ban (lengthy, maybe permanent) from holding any serious office.
MartyFunkhouser
Erik Thorstvedt
I think ethics is the largest stumbling block to decent politics these days, to many either slipping the net or not being dealt with in a fashion that clearly puts off dodgy dealings in the future.
Everyone seems to have a grift currently
That's also pay related though.
MPs get paid a pittance and can lose their job overnight. They have to have somewhere to land.
MartyFunkhouser
Erik Thorstvedt
Of course and they are able to do that still and do it handsomely within the guidelines.
glasgowspur
Barry Daines
The job may pay a pittance, not sure I agree but that's a discussion for another time, but there's no way the majority of the MPs could pick up or hold onto a job with a salary like that in the real world.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
I think that would be silly.
We get another pandemic, or an official war, and it would throw the country into chaos.
Then don't make promises that they can't keep.
It's not what they do that's the issue, it's what they promise to a gullible electorate.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
The entire economic foundation could change for reasons outside the government’s control.
To trigger an election on something like number of teachers hired or new houses built would be churlish.
Surely if the landscape changes significantly, then an election wouldn't be out of order.
Imagine if Labour had won the election in 2008. We'd currently be asking Argentina for handouts.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
It’s upheaval right when you need stability.
The electorate is supposed to vote for the most competent party.
Finney Is Back
Barry Daines
Student Unions up and down the land are saying 'hear hear!'
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
It would just lead to even woolier documents. "We will endeavour to move in the direction of phasing out fossil fuels". "Our ambition will be to increase the proportion of health expenditure direct towards social prescribing" etc.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
MPs and their families should definitely be banned from being landlords. That's a major conflict of interest in any housing reform or social inequality matter.
The most competent party during a boom would be something like Blair's late 90s party. NBut that party could never govern during a financial crisis.
Different parties have different competencies. It would make sense to be able to change government when the landscape has such life altering changes.
Imagine if we'd have been able to swap in an independent party during COVID that didn't want to shut the country down and spunk our children's and grandchildren's money up the wall. We'd all be doing fantastically right now.
Good. That's precisely what I want. I only want parties to promise the things they will actually do.
In today's episode of Mr Bean Goes to Court.....
Every time I think I couldn't possibly have a lower view of his (lack of) intellect, he goes and does something more stupid than even he has done before.
Every time I think I couldn't possibly have a lower view of his (lack of) intellect, he goes and does something more stupid than even he has done before.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Electoral stability of fptp is probably taken for granted by some. Weak governance is a given under itjer system. If we want to be able to trigger general elections it should be due to lack of democratic consensus. We need reform on the system of voting. Rather than have elections due to promise break.
kb 1984
Richard Gough
Maybe I am wrong but couldn't that cause elections to be called everytime Labor & conservatives have a disagreement. If it was based on what the eletroate want who decides when it's reached a tipping point to call an election.
We use preferential voting system which seems to work really well. The last two elections have seen 10 independents voted into Parliament on the back of climate change. At the moment they don't make a difference but if that trend continues Labor might be ok but liberals/ conservatives will be fudged they keep going further to the right
Preferential voting explained below for those interested
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