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nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I wonder if there is a way to incentivise "real estate" for solar panels?

For example, how many businesses - warehouses, factories - have enormous amounts of square footage suitable for panels? Perhaps council tax breaks or something like that to use the space could be viable?




I absolutely love this, its brilliant. Ive seen roof tiles (look just like clay tiles) that are solar panels as well, even more square footage as it covers the whole roof, and totally discreet as well.
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The solar roof tiles are likely to catch on when the price comes down. Tesla do a version of the solar roof tile but it is crazy money at the moment. I've seen one other solar tile but that too was very expensive. I'm once we start seeing cheaper Chinese versions of these tiles/systems hit the market, like with the bigger PV panels now, it will be worthwhile. At the moment as with all new technologies it doesn't make financial sense yet.
 
milo said:
As is this

https://twitter.com/x/status/946697392719527938
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Thanks for posting. I don’t ‘like’ it, but agree completely with the sentiment from Adonis. The government and the country are lacking direction and brave leadership. Tackling the sentiments of Brexit head on and setting out what is best for the UK would take strong leadership. How long can the government keep saving face pretending everything is going along okay?


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
 
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scaramanga said:
Removing tariffs on non-EU goods will reduce import costs by itself
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And we won't have any tariffs ourselves? What about regulation to? You know to make sure that things don't combust spontaneously For example? What about environmental or animal protection regulations?
 
No one with any influence has GBs view of Brexit, he argues that it is inevitable that this will come in the next general election which is highly unlikely. A successful communist government is just as likely as his degrowth ideals, there are too many big interests against it - it really is irrelevant to discussing Brexit.
 
r-u-s-x said:
No one with any influence has GBs view of Brexit, he argues that it is inevitable that this will come in the next general election which is highly unlikely. A successful communist government is just as likely as his degrowth ideals, there are too many big interests against it - it really is irrelevant to discussing Brexit.
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At the 2022 election there will be more protectionist things like renationalisation and ending PPPs on the table. A very different vision of Brexit to Liam Fox's

Degrowth is much bigger than Westminster and it will happen in the coming decades, simply because the two other alternatives are a nightmare dystopian world like Elysium, or colonising 6 other earths for the raw materials to support western levels of consumption for 8 billion people. Brexit is a potential revolutionary spark for us to get ahead on it though - a very happy unintended consequence.
 
It's weird timing by Adonis. Why put something like that out during the holidays where no-one is really engaging with the media? Perhaps he got wind he was about to be fired, and got some preemptive revenge in first?

Infrastructure is in a terrible state at the moment and the priorities are all wrong. HS2 and Crossrail 2 should be postponed until after HS3 and the Manchester-Sheffield tunnel are complete. And Hinkley Point will be obsolete long before it is built and needs ditching before another penny is wasted on it.
 
milo said:
As is this

https://twitter.com/x/status/946697392719527938
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I'd never really paid much attention to the Ukraine model, until I read that.

There seems a reasonable balance in there - tariff-free access for goods, passports for services and customs cooperation, but immigration through work permits. It's basically 3 of the 4 freedoms - goods, services and capital, but not labour. There's also buy-in options to Horizon 2020 and Europol. It is to some extent already Canada+. The trade-offs are competition, state aid and public procurement regulation alignment, which obviously aren't good, but I guess the compromise which might have to be made.
 
Gutter Boy said:
At the 2022 election there will be more protectionist things like renationalisation and ending PPPs on the table. A very different vision of Brexit to Liam Fox's

Degrowth is much bigger than Westminster and it will happen in the coming decades, simply because the two other alternatives are a nightmare dystopian world like Elysium, or colonising 6 other earths for the raw materials to support western levels of consumption for 8 billion people. Brexit is a potential revolutionary spark for us to get ahead on it though - a very happy unintended consequence.
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Go back to 2010, look at what was being predicted and compare to now, do they match especially the more extreme predictions like yours.

Your conclusions may be right but your timelines are well off.
 
DTA said:
And we won't have any tariffs ourselves? What about regulation to? You know to make sure that things don't combust spontaneously For example? What about environmental or animal protection regulations?
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We're fools if we do.

It's not our place to tell other countries to look after animals or trees, let them decide. If consumers don't like it they can vote with their wallets.
 
scaramanga said:
We're fools if we do.

It's not our place to tell other countries to look after animals or trees, let them decide. If consumers don't like it they can vote with their wallets.
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It is absolutely our place if they are importing to us, number 1 there is the safety issue. Number 2 there is the sustainability issue. And plenty of numbers after that.
 
scaramanga said:
We're fools if we do.

It's not our place to tell other countries to look after animals or trees, let them decide. If consumers don't like it they can vote with their wallets.
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how do consumers know what they are buying if we don’t insist on transparency?
 
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scaramanga said:
I know where plenty of the products I buy are made and nobody insists on transparency for them.

People will find out if they care enough but mostly they don't. What they claim to be caring is just virtue signalling.
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What if you buy something that negatively effects me. Pumping acid into a river and the like. Pure capitalism doesn't deal with externalities very well.
 
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r-u-s-x said:
What if you buy something that negatively effects me. Pumping acid into a river and the like. Pure capitalism doesn't deal with externalities very well.
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I'm not advocating pure capitalism, I just don't think supranational bodies are required for consumer protection. There are plenty of countries around the world who have the standards they want without being in the EU.

In terms of imports, that's something that should be down to consumer choice.

If you don't like a product you have the option of speaking to your MP to make your case or standing yourself and making the difference. If our public cares enough it will happen.
 
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