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Official - Holtby

Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

'few hundred thousand'



Wow, that's like pocket change. How dare he haggle over such a small sum of money.


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Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

You're forgetting to take into account the players salary, his signing on fee, and the agent fee, which we'd have to pay now if we sign him this month. So i doubt its a few hundred thousand mate

If a player moves on a free is there agent fees? Anyone?
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

If a player moves on a free is there agent fees? Anyone?

For sure. The player has an agent and much like the sign on fee/loyalty bonus thingy for the player his agent will want a fee to agree the deal etc.

Seems that a lot of normal transfers, especially international ones use go between agents between the clubs in addition to the player's agent. For a free that wouldn't be necessary I would think, but if we do sign him in January there might be someone getting a cut somewhere.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

For sure. The player has an agent and much like the sign on fee/loyalty bonus thingy for the player his agent will want a fee to agree the deal etc.

Seems that a lot of normal transfers, especially international ones use go between agents between the clubs in addition to the player's agent. For a free that wouldn't be necessary I would think, but if we do sign him in January there might be someone getting a cut somewhere.

Cheers. I suppose if the greedy little parasites always take a slice then does it matter that it happens now rather than the summer? You'd have to also assume that there will a signing on fee in the summer too, so I'm not too sure these fees factor into the equation. We are in effect just haggling over the transfer fee.

I saw the pre-Utd match press conference from AVB and he was asked if Holtby was coming in January. I've learned to take what AVB says about transfers with a pinch of salt but he did deny that the move was happening, and his body language backed it up. In fact he poured cold water on any transfer this window which would be disappointing and a big mistake in my opinion. Poker face maybe.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

Cheers. I suppose if the greedy little parasites always take a slice then does it matter that it happens now rather than the summer? You'd have to also assume that there will a signing on fee in the summer too, so I'm not too sure these fees factor into the equation. We are in effect just haggling over the transfer fee.

I saw the pre-Utd match press conference from AVB and he was asked if Holtby was coming in January. I've learned to take what AVB says about transfers with a pinch of salt but he did deny that the move was happening, and his body language backed it up. In fact he poured cold water on any transfer this window which would be disappointing and a big mistake in my opinion. Poker face maybe.

I'm not reading much into what AVB says about transfers to the press, seems to be conflicting messages even considering his body language. I don't think we'll get much from him unless it's blatantly obvious that we're after a player.

Partly I think this is so that we don't tip our hand to other clubs, but just as much i think it's about not raising the expectations we have as fans. If he starts indicating that something is close and then it fall through he would be less popular than a brick ITK.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

I'm not reading much into what AVB says about transfers to the press, seems to be conflicting messages even considering his body language. I don't think we'll get much from him unless it's blatantly obvious that we're after a player.

Partly I think this is so that we don't tip our hand to other clubs, but just as much i think it's about not raising the expectations we have as fans. If he starts indicating that something is close and then it fall through he would be less popular than a brick ITK.

Indeed. I think I remember him saying that Lloris was not happening and then it did. He seems to lie about transfers a lot.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

Michel Bastos? Top player but he's a wingback, right?
He was more of a left winger who got shifted to left back. So not too sure how it's a Holtby replacement unless the move things around. I thought that Raffael was his replacement.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

He was more of a left winger who got shifted to left back. So not too sure how it's a Holtby replacement unless the move things around. I thought that Raffael was his replacement.

Same here - lazy journalism, more like it
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

It's more to do with money (fees, wages) and having options in your squad than being a like for like replacement. Same reason we want Holtby now since Sandro got injured.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

Guardian Football Weekly seem to think he's on his way.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

He was more of a left winger who got shifted to left back. So not too sure how it's a Holtby replacement unless the move things around. I thought that Raffael was his replacement.

I was under the impression that Draxler played on the left for them, but could easily play in the middle so bringing in Bastos might make some sense.
 
Re: *Official* Holtby to join in July thread

Lewis Holtby wants to complete his move to Tottenham this month and has already undergone a medical at the club.

Spurs remain confident of agreeing a deal to bring forward the midfielder’s summer move from Schalke by six months, even though the clubs remain some way apart on the valuation.

Holtby is believed to have passed a medical earlier in January, an appointment that was planned before Sandro sustained a serious knee injury in the 0-0 draw with Queens Park Rangers.

He had originally agreed to move to White Hart Lane at the beginning of July, when his contract at Schalke will have expired, but Tottenham head coach Andre Villas-Boas is pushing hard to have Holtby now as he seeks greater depth in midfield.

Yet while Holtby, 22, will not rock the boat with his current club, Standard Sport understands the Germany international would favour a switch to north London now, rather than waiting until the end of the campaign.

Holtby is thought to be growing frustrated by the current impasse and uncertainty about his future. Spurs have offered a little less than £1million for the player, who would have qualified to play for England via his father, while Schalke are holding out for about £1.6m.

Spurs had hoped to have Holtby in time for Sunday’s FA Cup fourth-round tie at Leeds and could still wrap up a deal before the trip to Elland Road. Schalke’s next fixture in the Bundesliga is at Augsburg on Saturday.

Holtby had a superb game in his club’s 5-4 win over Hannover last weekend as German football resumed after its winter break and looked revitalised after his form had dropped in the final weeks of 2012.

Should Holtby remain in Germany, he would be able to continue with his club’s Champions League campaign, where they play Galatasaray in the last 16, but his preference is an immediate transfer to the Premier League.

Villas-Boas wants his chairman Daniel Levy to add at least two players before the transfer window closes and had planned to watch Celtic’s win over Dundee United at Parkhead last night, where forward Gary Hooper and midfielder Victor Wanyama were the main attractions.

But Spurs’s latest financial results may urge greater caution. The club announced a loss of £4.3m for last season, with revenue falling by 12 per cent from the 2010-11 campaign, mainly because the team did not compete in the Champions League last term.


http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/lewis-holtby-cannot-wait-to-join-andre-villasboas-at-spurs-8462910.html
 
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