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Next Manager?

Lilbaz said:
He may well have done. Or he might have asked for a swimming pool in his desk with rabid otters. Which personally i would have gave him. But levy might have thought no, they might give the players rabies and doris the tea lady has to put up with enough with my harvey Weinstein hands without feeding tuna to rabid otters. We'll never know.
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Hahahaha, I laughed out loud at this one. Thanks. :)
 
Lilbaz said:
He may well have done. Or he might have asked for a swimming pool in his desk with rabid otters. Which personally i would have gave him. But levy might have thought no, they might give the players rabies and doris the tea lady has to put up with enough with my harvey Weinstein hands without feeding tuna to rabid otters. We'll never know.
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Probably the most informative post of the last week
 
braineclipse said:
In hindsight at least our problems with the appointment make sense. I think we waited until the end of the season to see what options we would have. That makes sense as we would risk missing out on a preferred candidate by moving earlier.

Then our ambition level isn't matched by our recent performance levels, standard when a manager gets the sack. So we try for managers that are borderline in terms of being possible. That takes time and there's a risk of not finding agreement. Doing this with several candidates will take even more time.

Levy is probably in a hurry, but I doubt he's desperate. I hope he isn't at least. Trying for Poch and Conte seems like a good decision, if that can't happen move on to the next name on the list. Needs to happen quickly, but trying to make things happen quicker than possible will only hurt us.
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I dont disagree with much of that. However, if we've tried for 4 or 5 managers (Nagelsmann, Rodgers, maybe ETH, plus the two which you mention) and haven't got anyone to bite, then I'd suggest its not the wisest strategy. At some point you need to move from those which might just be possible, to those which are probable...and given the need to make improvements to the squad in certain positions, I'd suggest either at or past that point. A DoF can obvioulsy help with signings/outgoings in advance, however unless he's going to do deals in the absence of a manager, there's only so much that that can move things forward
 
AdamB said:
I dont disagree with much of that. However, if we've tried for 4 or 5 managers (Nagelsmann, Rodgers, maybe ETH, plus the two which you mention) and haven't got anyone to bite, then I'd suggest its not the wisest strategy. At some point you need to move from those which might just be possible, to those which are probable...and given the need to make improvements to the squad in certain positions, I'd suggest either at or past that point. A DoF can obvioulsy help with signings/outgoings in advance, however unless he's going to do deals in the absence of a manager, there's only so much that that can move things forward
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I don't think that any of those managers were offered the job. They were all certainly on the long list and there may have been some conversations but I think that is as far as it went. I think that Nagelsmann was first choice when Mourinho was sacked but obviously that was scuppered when Bayern came in for him. It appears that ten Hag is still a potential candidate and may be near the top of the list if Poch and Conte aren't options.
 
AdamB said:
I dont disagree with much of that. However, if we've tried for 4 or 5 managers (Nagelsmann, Rodgers, maybe ETH, plus the two which you mention) and haven't got anyone to bite, then I'd suggest its not the wisest strategy. At some point you need to move from those which might just be possible, to those which are probable...and given the need to make improvements to the squad in certain positions, I'd suggest either at or past that point. A DoF can obvioulsy help with signings/outgoings in advance, however unless he's going to do deals in the absence of a manager, there's only so much that that can move things forward
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Most of the rumours surrounding Nagelsmann, Rodgers and ETH were from before the season ended.

Been around two weeks now since Inter and PSG had their last games. That's two weeks at most spent trying to get someone that would be difficult to get (Poch, Conte). If the plan was or became to wait for seasons to end to see what options we had two weeks isn't that long.

It's not ideal, given the reasons you state and others. But getting this decision right is massively important so I can understand accepting that it will take some time.

I'm guessing Conte was seen at least as somewhat probable.

If Conte isn't seen as a possibility I imagine whoever we go for next will be seen as more probable. Kind of how these things work, the names higher on the list will in general be more difficult to get. Moving down the list it should get somewhat easier I think, at least most of the time.
 
I know that its just rumours but reports in italy saying that Conte to spurs is not completely dead in the water ... here we go 50 more pages of this. Just wrap it up Levy so that we can at the very least lock the thread ... since thats all we really care about.
 
AdamB said:
I dont disagree with much of that. However, if we've tried for 4 or 5 managers (Nagelsmann, Rodgers, maybe ETH, plus the two which you mention) and haven't got anyone to bite, then I'd suggest its not the wisest strategy. At some point you need to move from those which might just be possible, to those which are probable...and given the need to make improvements to the squad in certain positions, I'd suggest either at or past that point. A DoF can obvioulsy help with signings/outgoings in advance, however unless he's going to do deals in the absence of a manager, there's only so much that that can move things forward
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It all depends on what continuity we are planning for
The DOF aid all about that where as the manager is very much here for now
Someone called appointing a manager as Russian roulette and we can’t afford to get out head blown off with this one
 
alekaras said:
Call me silly, but Conte to Spurs might not be completely off the table. I mean, what team is left for Conte to go to? Like it or not, Spurs are the biggest team without a coach right now. Unless Conte wants to take a year off, he might want to reconsider.

Perhaps Levy knowing that didn't budge much on the negotiations? Just taking a wild guess here...
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I think Conte is attracted to the Premier league as that’s where most of the money is. Italian football is broke. Man U is the most likely target, surely it won’t be too long before they ditch Ole.
 
braineclipse said:
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If Conte isn't seen as a possibility I imagine whoever we go for next will be seen as more probable. Kind of how these things work, the names higher on the list will in general be more difficult to get. Moving down the list it should get somewhat easier I think, at least most of the time.
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Yes, though the further through the close season you go, the more other teams will fight against losing their manager and require greater compensation. When does pre-season start for most teams? 4 weeks from now? If, say Brighton lose Potter to Spurs in 1-2 weeks, they'd be scrambling to replace him and it would disrupt pre-season and transfer plans
 
Lilbaz said:
Sorry just watch a youtube vid of giant otters killing a crocodile, and a monkey. Those boys are leathal. Not sure i want that at spurs.
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That’s exactly what we need! Maybe an alternative to the honey badger pics in the OMTs next season!
 
alekaras said:
Arsenal? Really? And you think top coaches sit around waiting for someone to maybe get fired?
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There must be some that take an attitude that it’s a roundabout nowadays and being available could make it easier to jump on when a good opportunity arises rather than aiming to be continually employed? It’s not like they need the money, there’s pundit work and the opportunity to give a bit did time back to family and recharge the batteries.
I don’t think we are a totally different proposition for a new manager to Goons either, especially if there are no assurances about Kane staying.
 
dingdongo said:
Twitter really has zero idea what is going on today lol. There is Conte still on, Ten Hag back on, Tottenham to revisit Potter and Howe...
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I think this all kinda reinforces the idea that we've just held initial talks with our prefered shortlist entries rather than having gone cap in hand begging them to take the job.
 
billyiddo said:
I think this all kinda reinforces the idea that we've just held initial talks with our prefered shortlist entries rather than having gone cap in hand begging them to take the job.
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I love that saying ... i imagine Levy with Cap in hand when we are looking to buy a player and when we are to sell a player he turns up with Empty suitcases.
 
fernadez said:
Hasn't stopped 300 pages of discussion though has it, or people making assumptions that paint are dealings in a better light while at the same time saying we shouldn't assume anything.
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I think this is a great point. There has been a lot of push back on what I have been saying because it was seen as assumptions that painted the club in a negative / cynical light, in terms of their use of the media. When frankly, I don’t see why the reverse isn’t at least as equally likely to be true.
 
billyiddo said:
I think this all kinda reinforces the idea that we've just held initial talks with our prefered shortlist entries rather than having gone cap in hand begging them to take the job.
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Who is saying any of it on Twitter today. I can’t see any of our closely linked journos talking about any of it, which is again completely different to those ones in particular pumping stories that Poch and Conte were our preferred candidates and talks were progressing quickly.

The more I think about it, the more it looks like the leaks were set out very deliberately last week. We’ve just had Poch leverage his prior relationship with Winjaldum to close that deal, plus they look heavily linked to Hakimi and Donnaruma. Was he considering seriously jacking in these summer plans and PSG overall after 6 months to come and play in the Conference League? I don’t actually buy it. Many people were saying it didn’t make sense for a homecoming to be this soon, and many people were saying Conte / Levy made no sense whatsoever. And yet they were spoken about as preferred candidates, with the club doing nothing to dampen that.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
I think this is a great point. There has been a lot of push back on what I have been saying because it was seen as assumptions that painted the club in a negative / cynical light, in terms of their use of the media. When frankly, I don’t see why the reverse isn’t at least as equally likely to be true.
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I think most posts that aren't painting the club in a negative light are saying we don't know what's happened as @Lilbaz so eloquently put it (post of the year)
 
DubSpur said:
I think most posts that aren't painting the club in a negative light are saying we don't know what's happened as @Lilbaz so eloquently put it (post of the year)
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Yes, but people then take ‘we don’t know what happened’ and move that into ‘I’m sure Levy has just been diligently meeting candidates and doing everything he can.’ When we ‘don’t know’ there is just as much assumption on the side of him not using the media, or not being distracted by shiny new big names, as there is me saying he was using the media potentially for slightly cynical means.

If all we can discuss about the club is when something happens on the record, the summer discussion would be pretty sparse. Not everything happens on the record.
 
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