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indianspur
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You seriously have to question anyone who thinks Chadli could be a back up for Bale.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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You seriously have to question anyone who thinks Chadli could be a back up for Bale.
Someone will be held accountable - at the appropriate time. 9 games in to the season is not that time.
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indianspur
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Players new to a league tend to do very well at the beginning and for their first seasons......looks like it ain't the case at Spurs
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Tim Sherwood
Apparently Neil Warnock and his backroom team are available for £5m
I dont think anyone did. The obviously replacement for Bale was Lamela, he was the one considered to have that 'x factor'....
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think the plan was the Willian would replace Bale (short-medium term), Lamela would replace him (medium-long term) and that Chadli would replace Demspey.
Kingdawson
Banned
How exactly do you know that wasn't the intention?
you're so quick to tell others that they don't know what the DOF is doing and who he's signings were but you pass of your opinion as fact. How do you know what the intentions of the DOF was with the Chadli signing? did he tell you personally that Chadli was not meant to be the replacement?
Agree with so many of your points.
Hate to say it but our best two managers of recent years have been Redknapp and TS - in terms of results, style and having a go at doing things the 'Tottenham way.' Both made mistakes and were often awful in the press but the underlying fact was that many people never accepted them and jumped on any bad thing they did.
I don't want to put TS in the Redknapp bracket as he made mistakes and wasn't convincing. However the way constantly sniped at their intelligence, lack of football knowledge, characters was plain embarrasing.
My argument is that as spurs fans we rejoice over 'sexy' appointments and we feel often that international, flavour of the month managers are the right fit for our club and we are more willing to buy into it. It's exactly the same with the players..... Look at how many people have backed 40 odd million pounds worth of talent in Paulinho and Soldado, who both have to go down as two of the worst singings of our history. Yet you see comments such as 'but he's an international,' 'he is showing glimpses of class' when they have a 6/10 game. In comparison people jumped on Bentelab, Rose, Kane, Townsend at any chance they got. All of these players have done more for the cause than those two imposters.
Mason is new to the team and for 30mins he completely bossed the midfield yesterday - not perfect but had that been paulinho people would have been rejoicing.... I am now waiting for the insults to fly his way when an inevitable poor performance occurs ' what do you expect from an academy player... Why is poch playing him ahead of established internationals' etc etc.
As fans we need to take a long hard look at ourselves and realise that from top to bottom, we are all part of the problem. Constantly harking back to the glory days - we haven't been a top top team for 30 odd years and we won't be for a while yet. We need a big dose of realism and actually try and see that sexy and stylish often will
lead to nothing but desperate disappointment.
The foundations are there (youth set up, squad, manager (I think), plans for growth..... It is going to take time and a lot of hard work and upset to get anywhere from where we find ourselves
Except the 4 he wanted would have almost definitely included pauliniho and soldado, who he used constantly and from the off, they almost definitely didn't include Erickson , who was the best of the s club 7 last year.
shaney
Alan Hutton
Pulis or Benitez. Would'nt suprise me.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
LCLC, I don't often agree with a lot of your posts, but your last one here is very good in IMV.
Other than paulinho and vlad we have a very good squad, it's just missing something. A leader? Well bale by example so is that the answer, or a leader like Terry, Keane or bremner? Someone who's going to make you do it or else.
Everyone pins there hopes of a philosophy these days but that will take time. Will Poch get the time? Is he earning the right to that time? I hope so
Sitting on my porcelain throne using Fapatalk
Other than paulinho and vlad we have a very good squad, it's just missing something. A leader? Well bale by example so is that the answer, or a leader like Terry, Keane or bremner? Someone who's going to make you do it or else.
Everyone pins there hopes of a philosophy these days but that will take time. Will Poch get the time? Is he earning the right to that time? I hope so
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Pulis or Warnock are the logical conclusion if the UKIPish reactionaries force Levy to abandon another project. Another cycle of flip-flopping and squads that are the polar opposite of the preference of the procession of new coaches.
Or we could remember the 9 months it took Rodgers to get things in place at Liverpool, or Poch at Southampton, and have some patience for once.
Rodgers had suarez though and pouch done ok/ quite well at Southampton nothing more.
Not in anyway saying that we should get rid of pouch now though... That would be insane.
But the question remains do good managers/ good fits need time... Exclude Saf and someone please give me examples... Bacuse I can't think of any. Also why are managers to be given time, but players not?
Exactly, we need to be patient. Poch may make decisions that you don't agree with but he has his philosophy, sees performances everyday in training, will speak to coaches about player attitude, will have access to things like practice games, finishing drills and will be in close contact with sports scientists giving him advice.... End of the day we have to trust him and back him.
Good point about Rodgers and I do feel we can do something similar apart from the fact we need more 'gardening work' in terms of shipping players out and let's not forget that Rodgers was given a budget that poch simply will not get. This makes getting the right players in very hard. Also Liverpool already had top draw players in Gerrard and Suarez and I don't see us having anyone who can be the catalyst for a real upturn in results.
Poch is in a difficult place and I feel that judging by our summer activity, has been sold down the river already
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Yep. Our last decent team was 2010, but that team took 6 years to build. Unfortunately all the best players got cherry picked/grew old so we need to start again. And this will keep happening until we can pay the same wages as teams above us.
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Tim Sherwood
It will still happen after then too.
Every team in the world has to overhaul and rebuild every 5 years or so. Our problem is not that we're having to do it, it's that we keep starting, get cold feet, and limp on without the structural reforms that will bring longer term success.
Summer 2011 was the time we needed to start planning our next team, but Redknapp reverted to type and starting signed Parker, Friedel, Saha and Nelson, instead of more players like Sandro and Walker
I'm more confident now than I have been for a while that we are on a path to better things, but I do worry that the reactionaries will boo Pulis or Warnock into the club.
Yermiyahu
Scott Parker
Why? What do you see that makes you think this?
would be interested to understand as well ..