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General Transfer Discussion Thread

Southampton face prospect of losing another key player as exodus out of St Mary's looks set to continue

Morgan Schneiderlin will demand a move to Tottenham Hotspur as Southampton head towards a pre-season crisis.

Tottenham are confident of signing midfielder Schneiderlin and forward Jay Rodriguez, which would take the number of Southampton departures up to eight this summer.

Schneiderlin’s representatives are due to meet Ralph Krueger, the Southampton chairman, when they are expected to make clear that the France international, 24, wants to follow the manager Mauricio Pochettino, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers through the exit door.

Despite being out injured, Rodriguez has made his intention clear by turning down a new five-year contract with his current deal due to expire in 2016.

Southampton are thought to value Schneiderlin at around £27 million. Although Spurs are unlikely to match that figure, it has not put off Daniel Levy. The Tottenham chairman is confident that Schneiderlin’s desire to join his former manager Pochettino at Spurs will prove to be enough to see a compromise agreed.

Arsenal have also shown an interest in Schneiderlin, but the player is thought to favour the prospect of playing for Pochettino again.

Tottenham face competition from Liverpool for Rodriguez, 24, who is not expected to return from a serious knee injury until October, but Levy again believes that Pochettino can make the difference.

With just under two years left on his contract, Southampton will not be able to demand huge money for Rodriguez and Levy is likely to try to drive the price down because of the injury.

With Saints short of players, Spurs could offer a number of their unwanted men as part of deals for Schneiderlin and Rodriguez.

Tottenham had been looking at an ambitious move for the France international Antoine Griezmann, but Atlético Madrid have agreed a deal to sign the winger from Real Sociedad.

Defenders Michael Dawson and Kyle Naughton, winger Nacer Chadli and midfielder Étienne Capoue are all free to leave White Hart Lane this summer.

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...eiderlin-set-to-demand-move-to-Tottenham.html
 
Re: Morgan Schneiderlin

Robspur12 said:
Our defence played like **** last season because of the lack of protection in front together with fb's overcommitting. Even a world class performer like lloris was made to look incompetent at times last season. The defenders imo are fine. If we get the protection in front of it correct which mean bringing in someone like schneiderlin who comes deep and either takes the ball of weaker ball players like dawson or covers when verts and kaboul maraud forward we will be tighter imho. So I agree with KD. However I suspect most of the Dawson haters will soon get their way and he will be off. BTW in terms of strikers that's why we are looking at a double deal for MS and Rodriguez.
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exactly, we looked solid in defence when AVB was manager (apart from those freak results) because of the way we played.If we play 4-4-2 with everyone running around like headless chickens and full backs always committing like under Sherwood, obviously we are going to look like a shambles and it wouldnt matter who was at the back.
 
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SoundAndVision said:
exactly, we looked solid in defence when AVB was manager (apart from those freak results) because of the way we played.If we play 4-4-2 with everyone running around like headless chickens and full backs always committing like under Sherwood, obviously we are going to look like a shambles and it wouldnt matter who was at the back.
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I don't think we did. During the clean sheet run we still looked fragile, and it was more to do with teams coming to the lane and sitting back against us that gave the false impression we were tight at the back. As soon as teams realised we were actually powder puff and came at us we looked like we were going to concede every time a ball came into our half.

Personally, only Vertonghen convinces me that he's good enough to still be at the club. I can't believe Kaboul will be able to turn it around from last season - he just looked finished. Dawson it could be argued could be kept as a sub, but he just looks such a liability and has by far the least footballing ability out of any player in the entire first team squad.

Chiriches must surely have been a contender for worst of the bunch last year. Can't tackle, can't read the game, can't head, looks weak and massively overrated on the ball. I find it really hard to understand why he was brought to the club. However, its only prudent to give all of last seasons signings the chance to prove themselves under steady stewardship.

You would have to think if we don't make any further defensive acquisitions then we`re in the shiit. If you saw Rose, Dawson, Kaboul, Naughton (after Walker got injured) lining up for Sunderland or Leicester you wouldn't bat an eyelid, plus you would think that you were on for a hatful.

That being said, I don't see how Scheiderlin's potential transfer should have any impact on our recruitment of defenders? We're completely overstocked in midfield and will more than likely re-coup any money invested in this area through moving a couple on. Most managers like to bring in players they know and trust, and if Schneiderlin is that man for Poch, then fair enough. Particularly in an area as important as central midfield, and even more so given that, despite our large numbers in that area, we have a chronic lack of a player capable of playing an accurate forward pass.
 
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i think Poch will bomb out Sandro and Paulinho. I cant see either remaining after the window closes.
 
indianspur said:
i think Poch will bomb out Sandro and Paulinho. I cant see either remaining after the window closes.
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Napoli buying Fellaini suggests Sandro perhaps isn't leaving.

I think we might give Paulinho another 12 months and then let Bentaleb replace him.

Personally I just don't see Dembele being compatible with Poch's fast passing game. But really I don't think he can decide till he see all 4 of them - with Paulinho and Dembele on late holiday and Sandro with his virus, Capoue has been the only one he's seen up close.

I think we need to lose an RWF as well as a CM - probably one of Townsend or Lennon. A combination of those two will hopefully raise about £10m short of what we are going to pay to Southampton. That will leave us about break-even point again (if you count the Defoe income).
 
We can't ship out any more of the "home grown" players, without replacing them with other "home grown". That's why we can't just offload Daws, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend and Rose!! There are rules to follow! Replacing them with players considered to be home grown, wil cost a huge amount! Good luck in getting even close to break-even!
 
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Kandi1977 said:
We can't ship out any more of the "home grown" players, without replacing them with other "home grown". That's why we can't just offload Daws, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend and Rose!! There are rules to follow! Replacing them with players considered to be home grown, wil cost a huge amount! Good luck in getting even close to break-even!
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So signing Davies, Schneiderlin and Rodriguez isn't signing 3 new homegrown players then?

Add in the youngsters we are promoting like Bentaleb, Fryers and Kane and we are laughing.
 
Kandi1977 said:
We can't ship out any more of the "home grown" players, without replacing them with other "home grown". That's why we can't just offload Daws, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend and Rose!! There are rules to follow! Replacing them with players considered to be home grown, wil cost a huge amount! Good luck in getting even close to break-even!
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So the rule isn't actually about homegrown players, it is a limit of a maximum of 17 oversees players. With Schneiderlin and Rodriguez, we'd have 19 oversees players (one up on last season - Vorm; Siggy like Schneiderlin was homegrown). Of these though, 3 of them are BAE, Khumalo and Falque, who realistically won't be here next season. That then still leaves us space for an oversees CB, even if he replaces Dawson rather than Kaboul.

HL
MV
BF

JV
VC
YK
BAE
BK

SR
EC
MD
P
LH
CE

NC
EL
YF
EA
RS

= 19
 
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AberYid said:
Would love him at the Lane, but, what makes you say that?
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The imminent start of the season coupled with our apparent interest in him earlier in the window. If Vlad and Daws are actually being hawked about then getting two homegrown players in Lascelles and Stones to replace them would be healthy. Especially if Poch is deciding that Kaboul and Vertonghen are the main two - there have been no noises about Younes leaving.

Nothing that I know, just a supposition.
 
Gutter Boy said:
So signing Davies, Schneiderlin and Rodriguez isn't signing 3 new homegrown players then?

Add in the youngsters we are promoting like Bentaleb, Fryers and Kane and we are laughing.
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I haven't seen us signing either Schneiderlin nor Rodriguez..... Anyway, the point was that everyone keeps shouting about getting rid of all the Daws, Naught, Roses and so on, and bring in a bunch of foreigners, but the fact is that we simply can't do that.
 
Kandi1977 said:
I haven't seen us signing either Schneiderlin nor Rodriguez..... Anyway, the point was that everyone keeps shouting about getting rid of all the Daws, Naught, Roses and so on, and bring in a bunch of foreigners, but the fact is that we simply can't do that.
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I haven't seen that, unless "everyone" is some amalgamation of random opinions from various people.

Most posters seem well aware of the home grown regulations, the vast majority posters would be delighted with Schneiderlin it seems, most would be happy with Rodriguez. Plenty have been advocating getting rid of Falque, Paulinho, BAE and other players that aren't home grown.
 
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SaintsFC substitutes vs @OfficialBHAFC: K. Davis (GK), Flannigan, Stephens, McQueen, Cork, Mayuka, Hooiveld, Reed, Targett.

They've still got the makings of a team even if they let us have one or two players.
 
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