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Emerson Royal

Baleforce said:
there is some massive grading on a curve going on with Royal, Sess has been equally wasteful on the other side and is noticeably weaker defensively, despite having much more experience in PL football, yet gets 1% of the stick Royal gets
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Sess has not been equally wasteful at all. That is trumpian scale revisionism. Sess can and does put in decent crosses, he occupies defenders and pushes them backwards at least on occasion.

Royal almost gets a free run of the right hand side because the defenders are so not worried about him doing anything useful… for spurs

watch an opposition full back defend against him. Look at the room they leave him, they are daring him to cross. Daring him to play an adequate through ball..
 
Baleforce said:
he got beaten in the air twice, he's not a great defender

which is not always a problem, as Royal is good defensively and we often morph into a 4, but without that extra defender, which we have tried with Sess and Perisic starting, we are a disaster waiting to happen
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How did him getting beaten in the air give them a penalty?
Emerson’s a decent defender. Not great though
He is a poor wing back
He clearly has his fans but in reality he limits us rather than enhances us
The sess and Perisic example is skewed as it’s moving a left wing back to the right rather than trusting a right wing back
 
DTA said:
Sess has not been equally wasteful at all. That is trumpian scale revisionism. Sess can and does put in decent crosses, he occupies defenders and pushes them backwards at least on occasion.

Royal almost gets a free run of the right hand side because the defenders are so not worried about him doing anything useful… for spurs

watch an opposition full back defend against him. Look at the room they leave him, they are daring him to cross. Daring him to play an adequate through ball..
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Royal has put in plenty of decent crosses this season, for the first month neither Kane or Son were making any runs into the box though, it's not a strength of his, but the point is, he's getting more stick than he's due relative to others, defending is football too
 
Bedfordspurs said:
How did him getting beaten in the air give them a penalty?
Emerson’s a decent defender. Not great though
He is a poor wing back
He clearly has his fans but in reality he limits us rather than enhances us
The sess and Perisic example is skewed as it’s moving a left wing back to the right rather than trusting a right wing back
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had he won the header the ball wouldn't have ended up in the box, I can't actually remember it, just remember being furious with him for getting beaten in the air
 
Baleforce said:
had he won the header the ball wouldn't have ended up in the box, I can't actually remember it, just remember being furious with him for getting beaten in the air
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The ball was down our left
It was no where near him to win it
You probably need to look again
It was Sanchez with a daft foul and Perisic getting done twice that cost us
 
Baleforce said:
Royal has put in plenty of decent crosses this season, for the first month neither Kane or Son were making any runs into the box though, it's not a strength of his, but the point is, he's getting more stick than he's due relative to others, defending is football too
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He has put in one decent cross in the last 4 games he has played from memory
A decent cross has to get close to its target (the player) and be able to be connected with. He overhits most cross or floats them high
 
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Baleforce said:
Royal has put in plenty of decent crosses this season, for the first month neither Kane or Son were making any runs into the box though, it's not a strength of his, but the point is, he's getting more stick than he's due relative to others, defending is football too
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But he’s not even a great defender. He’s adequate. Conte’s system requires the full backs to be good going forward, which Royal just isn’t good at. With Doc, we could get more going forward sacrificing negligible defensive output.
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
He has put in one decent cross in the last 4 games he has played from memory
A decent cross has to get close to its target (the player) and be able to be connected with. He overhits most cross or floats them high
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a good cross hits the intended area, a player not making the right run makes it look like a bad ball when it was their dropped assignment
 
Baleforce said:
a good cross hits the intended area, a player not making the right run makes it look like a bad ball when it was their dropped assignment
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I agree
But he hits it normally 5 yards ahead or 5 yards behind
It’s woefully bad
It’s why players don’t gamble because they waste energy and effort
Completely different with other players crossing
 
Jurgen the German said:
But he’s not even a great defender. He’s adequate. Conte’s system requires the full backs to be good going forward, which Royal just isn’t good at. With Doc, we could get more going forward sacrificing negligible defensive output.
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I see this a lot, I think its equally possible that Conte's system with this squad values a safety on the pitch with pace and stamina and he's willing to give up some creativity for that.
 
Baleforce said:
Royal has put in plenty of decent crosses this season, for the first month neither Kane or Son were making any runs into the box though, it's not a strength of his, but the point is, he's getting more stick than he's due relative to others, defending is football too
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Sorry bruv I like you, but that’s rubbish. if there is no one in the box and your put the ball in there… that’s a very bad cross.

yes defending is football to, but he is only ok at it. Definitely not good enough to excuse the fact that he is near useless going forward.

again watch how opposition full backs deal with him. Look at the space they give him. It’s embarrassing.
 
Baleforce said:
ha, ok, I'm watching that entire game again and compiling a dossier of every defensive mistake Sess made

I stand by my original point, he's not perfect either, but gets effectively no criticism
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no one is perfect, But royal is just about adequate defensively and a non entity going forward

so the question is why does Conte pick him

My guess would be:

stamina (I bet he trains like a mad man as well)
Ability to follow instructions about shape and structure. - I have seen him move in to spaces that open up other spaces etc, he does this constantly. - which is great - problem is that he hasn’t go the ability to take advantage of that in an attacking sense.
 
DTA said:
no one is perfect, But royal is just about adequate defensively and a non entity going forward

so the question is why does Conte pick him

My guess would be:

stamina (I bet he trains like a mad man as well)
Ability to follow instructions about shape and structure. - I have seen him move in to spaces that open up other spaces etc, he does this constantly. - which is great - problem is that he hasn’t go the ability to take advantage of that in an attacking sense.
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I agree, probably the two most important metrics for a professional athlete
 
Baleforce said:
I see this a lot, I think its equally possible that Conte's system with this squad values a safety on the pitch with pace and stamina and he's willing to give up some creativity for that.
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Its amazing the amount of people that come on here announcing what Conte likes his wingbacks to be, and how they should play. Yet Conte picks Royal every single time, despite not being one of these swashbuckling wingbacks that Conte apparently demands and despite us having at least two more attacking wingbacks plus Moura who he has also played there at his disposal.

Now why would one of the top coaches in Europe consistently play a player at wingback who according to the experts on here is no good as a wingback? I can't really imagine Conte accepting week after week Royal not doing the role as Conte demands, but of course the masses on here dont enjoy him there - so it must just be he has a blindspot for Royal, and Royal is in fact useless there right? Lets not forget that coaches see the game in a very different way to how armchair fans do...
 
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