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Emerson Royal

metalgear said:
Conte loves Royal and he is not stupid so we have to accept that Conte prefers a more defensive right winger with the players we have.
i.e. he doesn't think we are good enough defensively
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I don't think he loves him enough to not want to replace him with someone a lot better.

This is similar to the Moura/Deki situation.
You think Moura can do this and that and always gives his all....then Deki signs, plays, and you realise it's night and day.

There is no doubt about Royal defensively BUT the attacking part is so important in this system. I don't think Doherty is that bad defensively....maybe Conte needs to be more selective depending on opponents?
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I don't think he loves him enough to not want to replace him with someone a lot better.

This is similar to the Moura/Deki situation.
You think Moura can do this and that and always gives his all....then Deki signs, plays, and you realise it's night and day.

There is no doubt about Royal defensively BUT the attacking part is so important in this system. I don't think Doherty is that bad defensively....maybe Conte needs to be more selective depending on opponents?
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I think we'll know more about what Conte actually thinks about Doherty and Emerson after Emerson's suspension.

Was clear that Doherty was first choice last season after a while. Looked like Emerson was a clear first choice earlier this season, but may have been fitness concerns more than anything.

With both hopefully fit after Emerson's suspension, with both then at good levels with fitness and match fitness we'll get to see what Conte thinks. Unless Doherty puts in a shocker or worldie between now and then.
 
DeanoAustin said:
I’m not sure he will. It made sense to play him last night because Doherty has to play Saturday and next Wednesday. If Doherty plays as well as he did Saturday in those two games, I’m demanding Conte takes a paternity test if he puts Royal back in.
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I hope you’re right. It’s a glaring area of weakness we need to improve.
 
I feel like he started the game pretty well yesterday but there was a moment where Romero was moving up playing passes with Royal, and then he started to make a run forwards that Royal should've just released the ball for, but instead he completely missed it and decided to square the ball instead. I just don't think he has the game intelligence to be successful as a wingback. I know that's not controversial around here but I tried to be patient with him, thinking maybe watching all those videos of Hachimi will somehow make him better as his position.
In terms of his defending, I don't think it's that great either. To be fair, he is under a lot more scrutiny than almost any other player we have but there's a reason for that.
 
papaspur said:
I feel like he started the game pretty well yesterday but there was a moment where Romero was moving up playing passes with Royal, and then he started to make a run forwards that Royal should've just released the ball for, but instead he completely missed it and decided to square the ball instead. I just don't think he has the game intelligence to be successful as a wingback. I know that's not controversial around here but I tried to be patient with him, thinking maybe watching all those videos of Hachimi will somehow make him better as his position.
In terms of his defending, I don't think it's that great either. To be fair, he is under a lot more scrutiny than almost any other player we have but there's a reason for that.
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im with you, I’m baffled so many people say his defending is great. He makes too many mistakes for that to be the case. He also can be rash, sometimes positionally poor, not much in the air despite his size.

At best he is an adequate defensive fullback, and completely inadequate attacking wing back.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It felt like the players moved the ball to the right, saw it was royal and switched back
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I absolutely felt that. In fact, it contributed to the Dier error. Romero receives, looks, and decides 'nope'...does not excuse the error, but explains the overall mindset of the side as I saw it. BTW, other than the error, Dier was again imperious.
 
thfcsteff said:
I absolutely felt that. In fact, it contributed to the Dier error. Romero receives, looks, and decides 'nope'...does not excuse the error, but explains the overall mindset of the side as I saw it. BTW, other than the error, Dier was again imperious.
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His yellow was , imo, stupid. Guy was off the pitch almost
But he stood up after his yellow again
 
thfcsteff said:
I absolutely felt that. In fact, it contributed to the Dier error. Romero receives, looks, and decides 'nope'...does not excuse the error, but explains the overall mindset of the side as I saw it. BTW, other than the error, Dier was again imperious.
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I dont agree with that, I think people are just looking for things to beat Royal with - I see the LCB constantly ignore the LWB and pass inside but of course that doesnt get any attention. But what I will say is as much as it was poor control from Dier, the pass from Romero was poor - rather than rolling it along the ground he casually lofts the ball which meant the ball was bouncing and made it more difficult to control. Dont get me wrong, Dier should deal with it but it was poor from Romero....
 
harr1984 said:
I dont agree with that, I think people are just looking for things to beat Royal with - I see the LCB constantly ignore the LWB and pass inside but of course that doesnt get any attention. But what I will say is as much as it was poor control from Dier, the pass from Romero was poor - rather than rolling it along the ground he casually lofts the ball which meant the ball was bouncing and made it more difficult to control. Dont get me wrong, Dier should deal with it but it was poor from Romero....
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there is some massive grading on a curve going on with Royal, Sess has been equally wasteful on the other side and is noticeably weaker defensively, despite having much more experience in PL football, yet gets 1% of the stick Royal gets
 
Baleforce said:
there is some massive grading on a curve going on with Royal, Sess has been equally wasteful on the other side and is noticeably weaker defensively, despite having much more experience in PL football, yet gets 1% of the stick Royal gets
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Is he weaker defensively?
It’s not been shown with the goals we have conceded
 
harr1984 said:
I dont agree with that, I think people are just looking for things to beat Royal with - I see the LCB constantly ignore the LWB and pass inside but of course that doesnt get any attention. But what I will say is as much as it was poor control from Dier, the pass from Romero was poor - rather than rolling it along the ground he casually lofts the ball which meant the ball was bouncing and made it more difficult to control. Dont get me wrong, Dier should deal with it but it was poor from Romero....
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The LCB passing inwards was an actual plan of attack. It’s also something that lenglet does really well. It meant we had control of the space in the middle to launch the attacks from.
lenglet to Kane, Kane to pass onto sessegnon or sim who then target a central zone or space (and runners) is a great play and is one of contes automations.
You can’t do it as well down the right as royal and Richy don’t really run or pass the same way.
 
DTA said:
im with you, I’m baffled so many people say his defending is great. He makes too many mistakes for that to be the case. He also can be rash, sometimes positionally poor, not much in the air despite his size.

At best he is an adequate defensive fullback, and completely inadequate attacking wing back.
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He’s a good defender. Not great, but not poor. He will make mistakes, but he’s usually solid more often than not. But on the whole I agree. It’s not like he is world class so we can excuse his lack of end product at the other end of the pitch. He’s the complete opposite of Trippier who is a dreadful defender but was awesome going forward. When he stopped being productive going forward then there really was little point in playing him as his defending was so poor. It’s a similar situation with Royal now only the other way round. If he continues to drop the ball defensively then he needs to be benched in favour of Doherty or Spence.
 
Baleforce said:
there is some massive grading on a curve going on with Royal, Sess has been equally wasteful on the other side and is noticeably weaker defensively, despite having much more experience in PL football, yet gets 1% of the stick Royal gets
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Agreement.

Sometimes certain faces fit and some don't.

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Baleforce said:
there is some massive grading on a curve going on with Royal, Sess has been equally wasteful on the other side and is noticeably weaker defensively, despite having much more experience in PL football, yet gets 1% of the stick Royal gets
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You have point. But Sessegnon doesn’t start every league game without fail like Royal does. The LWB spot seems up for grabs whereas Conte seemingly has Royal as his favourite for RWB regardless of form.
 
Baleforce said:
two goals against Leicester directly from his mistakes
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One was a penalty from our right hand side
The other was a goal in the middle of the pitch. I’d agree that he could have done more for the ball in but the free space we gave Maddison isn’t on the left wing back
 
Bedfordspurs said:
One was a penalty from our right hand side
The other was a goal in the middle of the pitch. I’d agree that he could have done more for the ball in but the free space we gave Maddison isn’t on the left wing back
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he got beaten in the air twice, he's not a great defender

which is not always a problem, as Royal is good defensively and we often morph into a 4, but without that extra defender, which we have tried with Sess and Perisic starting, we are a disaster waiting to happen
 
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