Kind of - depends on how far back you look. I'd say that they've been firmly de-established as a CL team having not been in it for 5 years, and therefore getting a 2nd place finish and qualifying is clear success.
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Kind of - depends on how far back you look. I'd say that they've been firmly de-established as a CL team having not been in it for 5 years, and therefore getting a 2nd place finish and qualifying is clear success.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Did they keep him too long or not long enough?
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
And if they wanted to sack him they would’ve…. Levy sacked Mourinho with no idea who would take over for example. Same with Conte.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Tbf Conte refused to return and effectively resigned.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
First part is alleged and second factually isn't true as it was a mutual agreement.
The very same Conte who ignored medical advice to come back early to return to his post during that weird time where a bunch on here thought Stelieni was a genius.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Depends what reporters you chose to believe doesn’t it? Either way, factually, Levy didn’t sack him.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Yeah course he did….
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
Wenger only won the league 3 times didn't he?
Bishop
Pat van den Hauwe
They have the same mitigation you allow for Spurs. Primarily the massive expense of self funding the building of a new stadium and the subsequent squeeze it had on their finances.
You can't give ENIC that allowance but then not also give that to Arsenal. It's literally the same situation.
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Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Yeah course he didn’t….
Nope, because they walked into the stadium expense off the back of years of constant CL, and then had the benefit of keeping that going for almost a decade post CL build. You could do the math (I'm too lazy), that 20 year year period gave them probably a billion plus in advantage over us.
We were trying to do the impossible, start low, pay for the infrastructure and continue to step up, they just had to maintain status quo while building the infrastructure. something they failed miserably at.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
First part is kind of obvious and I haven't said Levy sacked him, I literally just said it was a mutual agreement but okay...?
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Bishop
Pat van den Hauwe
We started lower than they did, but we started with more revenue than they had at the time. The entire CL TV revenues from 97-2003 was worth only €610m. The years we were in it the entire deal had ballooned to €1.1B per season. Arsenal's entire revenue in 2003 was just £117.8m the year they started the Emirates project. There is no way they earn't even half a billion from the CL in those years.
Ours in the equivalent 2016 was £209m and that was without even competing in the CL until the next season. Basically the finances of football have massively elevated since the 90s so yes it was the same situation for Arsenal as it currently for ourselves. Their performances tanked as they struggled with the costs of building a stadium.
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Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Agreed. They still bottled finishing 1st though....8 points clear going into the Liverpool game in April.
...and also given the number of points lead which they had at the turn of the year
yiddo37
Didier Zokora
ONLY 3 PL Titles surely?
Edit. Been confirmed.
Back to this season I would have been absolutely gutted if we'd been in their position and dropped the points they have to concede the title to City*
*Not 100% confirmed yet
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
During our manager search in the summer of 2021 Daniel Levy and his cronies interviewed Erik Ten Hag and decided that he lacked the personality to manage Spurs so instead he turned to Nuno Espírito Santo.
When I consider how we spluttered under Nuno in comparison to what Ten Hag is achieving in his first season at Utd you have to wonder how Levy could have got it so wrong, especially when you consider:
He guided them to victory in the League Cup
Qualified for the final of the FA Cup
Guided them to CL qualification
Dealt with the misbehaving Cristiano Ronaldo with authority
A good business man sure, but he continues to make bad footballing decisions. Why would someone ever imagine that Nuno would be a better fit for Spurs.
I was never won over by Mourinho and his boring football. Sure, left to me I would have probably sacked him earlier, but no way would have done it 6 days before a cup final, because he is good at winning them. That was another bad decision.
When I consider how we spluttered under Nuno in comparison to what Ten Hag is achieving in his first season at Utd you have to wonder how Levy could have got it so wrong, especially when you consider:
He guided them to victory in the League Cup
Qualified for the final of the FA Cup
Guided them to CL qualification
Dealt with the misbehaving Cristiano Ronaldo with authority
A good business man sure, but he continues to make bad footballing decisions. Why would someone ever imagine that Nuno would be a better fit for Spurs.
I was never won over by Mourinho and his boring football. Sure, left to me I would have probably sacked him earlier, but no way would have done it 6 days before a cup final, because he is good at winning them. That was another bad decision.
Will see in the next couple weeks whether Levy has learned from this i.e. rather than going for a desperation/settle for candidate, to go back to someone qualified and cave on what that person wants. I'm not optimistic